dlbalr Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Kaberle a no-go tonight, this could also be noted in the game thread that needs to be created since I can't today...hint, hint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Despite the team's denials, Moen's injury was a concussion stemming from a hit from Komisarek a while ago. I think we all suspected that but there's the confirmation, straight from the horse's mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Despite the team's denials, Moen's injury was a concussion stemming from a hit from Komisarek a while ago. I think we all suspected that but there's the confirmation, straight from the horse's mouth. Wait, is Moen the horse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Wait, is Moen the horse? I've never really understood why that expression is so commonly used. In this case, yes, Moen is the horse, that tidbit came from his scrum at media day. Speaking of injuries, it's a groin issue for Diaz and he won't be heading to the Worlds either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Wait, is Moen the horse? NO he is the horse’s mouth. Carey is the horse. Gomez is the horses posterior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 NO he is the horse’s mouth. Carey is the horse. Gomez is the horses posterior. I guess you were at the Habs Halloween party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 Guess we know why Moen didn't get traded. Now will we re-sign him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Guess we know why Moen didn't get traded. Now will we re-sign him? Assuming his brain is OK, yes, we should re-sign him - provided the price is reasonable. People get mad at Moen on the top lines or PP, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a real-deal NHL grinder, unlike, say, Blunden. And those guys aren't as easy to find as everybody seems to think (witness Gauthier's endless, tiresome struggles to fill the 4th line year after year). We never should have let Kostopolis go, for that matter. I'd like to see a thread strictly on the UFA signings the Habs should or should not make this summer. That could prove interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 I agree we should re-sign him. My question was more Will We actually do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I agree we should re-sign him. My question was more Will We actually do it? Depends on who the new GM is and where he sees this team next year and the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willey101 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Depends on who the new GM is and where he sees this team next year and the future. I think regardless of the GM Moen has to be retained. For a guy who can net you 10 goals a year but play pivotal pk time as well as stick up for teammates, he is a must. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Assuming his brain is OK, yes, we should re-sign him - provided the price is reasonable. People get mad at Moen on the top lines or PP, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a real-deal NHL grinder, unlike, say, Blunden. And those guys aren't as easy to find as everybody seems to think (witness Gauthier's endless, tiresome struggles to fill the 4th line year after year). We never should have let Kostopolis go, for that matter. I'd like to see a thread strictly on the UFA signings the Habs should or should not make this summer. That could prove interesting. Kostopplis was all heart alright. We've had some wonderful guys play key roles for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenadian Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Moen's a STAR! Remember his cameo on Corner Gas............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Kostopplis was all heart alright. We've had some wonderful guys play key roles for us. It took me a while to realize this, but really think that the attitude that 'role players are interchangeable' is a mistake, and one that has significantly hurt us. Tom the Bomb was above average in terms of heart and desire, and could play. It's worth paying an extra half mil to keep a guy like that around. The same goes for Dominic Moore. I realize that in a cap system there's a huge temptation to think of these guys as interchangeable parts. But they're not, and they can make a massive difference, especially in the playoffs. More and more it seems that teams win and lose in the playoffs based on their third and fourth lines. The Canucks have been eliminated in their last two series and in both cases a huge key was the superior performance their opponents got from their bottom six. But never mind that; when you look at a team like ours, which even when playing to its potential does not have a particularly daunting top-6, it just makes sense to try to have the best possible bottom-6 you can assemble. In short, we need to rethink our organizational approach to 'depth' players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 It took me a while to realize this, but really think that the attitude that 'role players are interchangeable' is a mistake, and one that has significantly hurt us. Tom the Bomb was above average in terms of heart and desire, and could play. It's worth paying an extra half mil to keep a guy like that around. The same goes for Dominic Moore. I realize that in a cap system there's a huge temptation to think of these guys as interchangeable parts. But they're not, and they can make a massive difference, especially in the playoffs. More and more it seems that teams win and lose in the playoffs based on their third and fourth lines. The Canucks have been eliminated in their last two series and in both cases a huge key was the superior performance their opponents got from their bottom six. But never mind that; when you look at a team like ours, which even when playing to its potential does not have a particularly daunting top-6, it just makes sense to try to have the best possible bottom-6 you can assemble. In short, we need to rethink our organizational approach to 'depth' players. I think your assertion about botom 6 has some merit for sure. I admired Kostopoulas's heart and willingness to lose every fight on behalf of his teammates, but he has no real skill, like Darche, who i also admire for work ethic and being a team player. But the Canucks lost the last 2 series because their highpaid stars didnt score (+key injuries), not because of LaPierre or Malhotra's play. But bottom six guys can be the deciding factor for sure, when 2 teams are fairly equal, but if the stars are the game stars you are going no where, Habs have zero all star forwards and that is and has been their biggest weakness for a few years. Could they use some more scoring from 3rd and 4th lines, for sure but, when highest paid d-man and all your highest paid forwards (cept #72), dont score (due to injury or just sucking) you end up in 28th place. If had a couple snipers who can score in shootouts, Price wouldnt have a bad record in shootouts and If #11, 13, 14, 21 could of managed 60+ goals between them, Habs would be playing the Bruins or Rangers right now. I see a bit more depth coming for bottom 6 in next year or 2 and with Bournival/Holland/Leblanc/Kristo/White/Blunden/Moan/Geoffrion/Shultz/Engqvist they should be able to scape togeather a solid bottom six group. I am tired of a new 4th line every October and hope one of the bottom six group can just learn how to win some more facoffs and fill the void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 It took me a while to realize this, but really think that the attitude that 'role players are interchangeable' is a mistake, and one that has significantly hurt us. Tom the Bomb was above average in terms of heart and desire, and could play. It's worth paying an extra half mil to keep a guy like that around. The same goes for Dominic Moore. I realize that in a cap system there's a huge temptation to think of these guys as interchangeable parts. But they're not, and they can make a massive difference, especially in the playoffs. More and more it seems that teams win and lose in the playoffs based on their third and fourth lines. The Canucks have been eliminated in their last two series and in both cases a huge key was the superior performance their opponents got from their bottom six. But never mind that; when you look at a team like ours, which even when playing to its potential does not have a particularly daunting top-6, it just makes sense to try to have the best possible bottom-6 you can assemble. In short, we need to rethink our organizational approach to 'depth' players. I was thinking of Moore as well. Great player. And what about loyalty? We keep asking it from the players.. have we got any? There's a difference between a marriage and a strictly commercial exchange.. ideally.... Sport is no longer about neighborhoods, friends and community. It's about hired guns for the most part. Perhaps loving your team because they are 'your' team isn't a great improvement, but dancing with the girl ya brung isn't a bad policy in the longterm I suspect. We identify wiht the players , especially as kids, because we get to see them and know them. They become us, and we them in a primitive communion of human aspiration. Domenic Moores and Tom the Bomb had heart and won ours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Rene Bourque injured: http://www.habseyeso...-out-8-12-weeks He'll be out eight to twelve weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Rene Bourque injured: http://www.habseyeso...-out-8-12-weeks He'll be out eight to twelve weeks. Useless anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 More chance that Galchenyuk starts the season on LW on line 2. If the season starts on time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 More chance that Galchenyuk starts the season on LW on line 2. If the season starts on time. chance maybe went from 0% to 1% and a major set-back for Bourque, which is too bad. Instead of the kid whose going back to Sarnia, i am thinking Leblanc may step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Time for me to adjust the fantasy prediction on the site for Bourque. Guess we're getting a head start to the injury bug this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Rene Bourque injured: http://www.habseyeso...-out-8-12-weeks He'll be out eight to twelve weeks. Wrong kind of ripped abs :S Quite unfortunate for a player hoping to bounce back this year. Not quite as bad if there's a lockout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 So Bourque is injured now and gets paid during the lockout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I'd reiterate my ongoing grumbles about MB's failure to make any apparent effort to sign short-term stopgaps for the top-6 (such as Whitney, Fatendresse, Jagr or even Kostitsyn) - a failure that becomes even more glaring now that our supposed go-to option on the wing is hurt for two months. But what's the use. MB obviously felt comfortable with five top-6 forwards + Bourque. Perhaps this will make him see reason on this question - a shame that the best options, Whitney and Jagr, are now off the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I'd reiterate my ongoing grumbles about MB's failure to make any apparent effort to sign short-term stopgaps for the top-6 (such as Whitney, Fatendresse, Jagr or even Kostitsyn) - a failure that becomes even more glaring now that our supposed go-top option on the wing is hurt for two months. But what's the use. MB obviously felt comfortable with five top-6 forwards + Bourque. Perhaps this will make him see reason on this question - a shame that the best options, Whitney and Jagr, are now off the table. But you just did reiterate your ongoing grumbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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