nihilz Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, JoeLassister said: Hjalmarsson to Phoenix Dauphin and Murphy to Chicago Hawks are crippled by 21 million on 2 players. Just plain silly. Quote
Habsfan84 Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, JoeLassister said: Hjalmarsson to Phoenix Dauphin and Murphy to Chicago Chicago is busy. They are also starting to report that Panarin is headed to Columbus for Saad. Gotta be more to that puzzle that they still have to announce. Quote
JoeLassister Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 17 minutes ago, Habsfan84 said: Chicago is busy. They are also starting to report that Panarin is headed to Columbus for Saad. Gotta be more to that puzzle that they still have to announce. Done deal as per HFboards Hawks section. Quote
dlbalr Posted June 23, 2017 Author Posted June 23, 2017 56 minutes ago, nihilz said: Hawks are crippled by 21 million on 2 players. Just plain silly. This doesn't really solve that a whole lot as Murphy's cap hit is pretty much the same as Hjalmarsson's. This is more of a 'shake things up' move than anything, same with Panarin's trade (he and Saad have identical cap hits). Chicago did add an intriguing young goalie though in Forsberg. Quote
Fanpuck33 Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 Don't understand the CBJ/CHI deal on the Chicago side. Are they that high on Forsberg? Just doesn't make sense to me to make that deal and not gain any cap relief in the process. Quote
dlbalr Posted June 23, 2017 Author Posted June 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Fanpuck33 said: Don't understand the CBJ/CHI deal on the Chicago side. Are they that high on Forsberg? Just doesn't make sense to me to make that deal and not gain any cap relief in the process. Team control on Saad maybe? Panarin's hitting unrestricted free agency at 27 (two years from now) and they weren't going to be able to afford to pay him more. Saad has four years left on his deal. Quote
Commandant Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 The league has gone crazy in the last 2 hours. Quote
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 Good Canadian boy, Methot, manages to block all 7 Canadian teams for trades - putting Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, and Montreal on his No Trade list, and he can't be moved back to Ottawa before January. Very patriotic. In case that finger doesn't heal, I have a particular finger to give him. 1 Quote
BCHabnut Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 I would do it too. If I had the opportunity to make the same money and pay half the taxes. Good on him. Quote
Commandant Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 35 minutes ago, BCHabnut said: I would do it too. If I had the opportunity to make the same money and pay half the taxes. Good on him. Edmonton and Calgary are in the top 5 in the NHL for least taxes, but he has them on his list. Meanwhile the California teams are not on his list. Do You really think this is a tax thing? Quote
habs rule Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 Oshie signed 46 million over 8 years. The Caps have balls. Quote
Chris Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 Yea, makes you wonder how many years on Radulov, money isn't bad. I think they are similar ages. Quote
Habsfan84 Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, Chris said: Yea, makes you wonder how many years on Radulov, money isn't bad. I think they are similar ages. It's a very scary thought that Oshie got that since you would think Radulov would want something similar. Both 30 yearold wingers. The Caps will be paying Oshie till he's 38. I would give more money to get the years off but I think it's starting to look more and more like Radulov won't be back if that's what the market is. Quote
dlbalr Posted June 23, 2017 Author Posted June 23, 2017 36 minutes ago, Chris said: Yea, makes you wonder how many years on Radulov, money isn't bad. I think they are similar ages. Pretty much - Oshie is about five months older. That won't help Montreal's leverage in trying to get a shorter deal done (and I hope they have no interest in going that long for Radulov). Quote
hab29RETIRED Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Pretty much - Oshie is about five months older. That won't help Montreal's leverage in trying to get a shorter deal done (and I hope they have no interest in going that long for Radulov). Agreed. That is an incredibly stupid trade and why I hate arbitration. You end up having to pay for other team's stupidity. if anything, the caps should be looking for another dominant centre. Quote
dlbalr Posted June 23, 2017 Author Posted June 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: Agreed. That is an incredibly stupid trade and why I hate arbitration. You end up having to pay for other team's stupidity. if anything, the caps should be looking for another dominant centre. Oshie's been with Washington for two years (pretty good trade too considering what Brouwer did this year) and this has nothing really to do with arbitration as he hasn't been eligible for arbitration since 2012. As for looking for another dominant centre, they already have one of the best one-two punches in the league with Backstrom/Kuznetsov. (Plus Eller as a 3C isn't that bad either.) Quote
hab29RETIRED Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 35 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Oshie's been with Washington for two years (pretty good trade too considering what Brouwer did this year) and this has nothing really to do with arbitration as he hasn't been eligible for arbitration since 2012. As for looking for another dominant centre, they already have one of the best one-two punches in the league with Backstrom/Kuznetsov. (Plus Eller as a 3C isn't that bad either.) I don't mean that this contract will impact arbitration for others - I mean in general (his age group really isn't applicable for arbitration eligible players), when one GM throws money at a player stupidly and than other teams get screwed over in arbitration. I think they need a big dominant centre to go up against the pens. Ellet is big, but I wouldn't call him dominant. They could also use help on D with alzner going. I just think it's stupid money and term to throw at oshie. He scored over 30 goals, but has health issues. A 4 or 5 year contract would have been ok - I think he will decline big time after the third year. But another case of a GM being stupid. Quote
xXx..CK..xXx Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 Backstrom is pretty dominant and I wouldn't call him hugely undersized. Quote
hab29RETIRED Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 43 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: Backstrom is pretty dominant and I wouldn't call him hugely undersized. Backstom is a great centre, but the caps need someone who can help them get by their kryotonite (the pens). Quote
BCHabnut Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 5 hours ago, Commandant said: Edmonton and Calgary are in the top 5 in the NHL for least taxes, but he has them on his list. Meanwhile the California teams are not on his list. Do You really think this is a tax thing? Are your numbers accurate to 2017? Trudeau 44% and Nutley bracket in Alberta must have evened the field with even the most communist states like new York and California. Quote
Commandant Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 43 minutes ago, Chris said: St louis gave up a lot for Schenn IMO Lehtera sucks, but the picks are quite a bit. Quote
Lovett's Magnatones Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 1 hour ago, BCHabnut said: Are your numbers accurate to 2017? Trudeau 44% and Nutley bracket in Alberta must have evened the field with even the most communist states like new York and California. They don't call him "Comrade DeBlasio" for nothing! Quote
BCHabnut Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 Haha. I don't know jack about USA. Just having some fun. Not a big fan of taxes is all. Quote
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