2024-2025 Laval Rocket discussion thread

[Prime Minister Koivu]

Waive Dvorak and bring Beck up

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

40 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Waive Dvorak and bring Beck up

 

That's outstanding. Do you really think Beck could replace Dvorak's offense? 

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

Owen Beck has been 1st star of the game in back to back games. I know there is a certain other poster here who will be pleased. 

[Commandant]

1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Waive Dvorak and bring Beck up

 

What a play by Gignac there. 

I'd waive Dvorak and call up Roy. 

 

Between Suzuki, Dach, Newhook, Evans and Kapanen, you'd still have enough centre options. 

 

[hab29RETIRED]

5 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

That's outstanding. Do you really think Beck could replace Dvorak's offense? 

I think per wee Herman could replace Dvorak's offense.

[DON]

Owen Beck’s short-handed winner pushes Laval win streak to six

 

"Laurent Dauphin and Filip Mesar remained sidelined by injuries, while they were joined by Alex Barré-Boulet and Jakub Dobeš, who are both day to day....

However, an errant pass along the walls by Sean Farrell allowed Georgii Merkulov to quickly snap a shot over Hughes and tie the game....

The Rocket might have started the third period short-handed, but no one appeared to have told Gignac as he became a one-man penalty kill in the opening minute. After he created one rush chance, he then stole the puck, dangled between defenders, and set up a relatively simple backhand goal for Owen Beck."

 

 

Mailloux has fairly high shooting %.

Roy putting pucks on net.

[Prime Minister Koivu]

9 hours ago, Commandant said:

 

What a play by Gignac there. 

I'd waive Dvorak and call up Roy. 

 

Between Suzuki, Dach, Newhook, Evans and Kapanen, you'd still have enough centre options. 

 

I am starting to wonder if Roy is going to get screwed this season. He is definitely playing well enough for a call up. 
 

RHP should be back sometime in November and I’m not sure how Hughes will handle that. 
 

Kapanen to Europe? Heineman to Laval? Waive Dvorak?

 

I'm not sure there is room for Roy (or Beck). 

[DON]

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[DON]

2 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

I am starting to wonder if Roy is going to get screwed this season.

I say, if he is kept there till x-mas, it will hurt him none.

I just cant see why after all of 8 games, you think he is getting screwed after a lazy or uninspiring training camp with Habs?

 

 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

1 hour ago, DON said:

I say, if he is kept there till x-mas, it will hurt him none.

I just cant see why after all of 8 games, you think he is getting screwed after a lazy or uninspiring training camp with Habs?

 

 

What I meant by screwed is that he might get stuck in Laval all season because there is no room. 
 

What happens when RHP comes back?

 

Who gets moved (trade or sent down)? Does RHP become #14 forward? Even if there is a rotation I don’t see room for Roy unless there are intentional moves to make room for him. 

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

6 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said:

I think per wee Herman could replace Dvorak's offense.

Fortunately this is the last year of Dvorak's contract.  There will be better and cheaper options next year. 

[Commandant]

1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

What I meant by screwed is that he might get stuck in Laval all season because there is no room. 
 

What happens when RHP comes back?

 

Who gets moved (trade or sent down)? Does RHP become #14 forward? Even if there is a rotation I don’t see room for Roy unless there are intentional moves to make room for him. 

 

Is RHP assured a spot on the team, or is he the one waived and sent to Laval.  He had a crazy run of hot shooting in 2022-23, but he wasn't very good in 2023-24 and is now coming back from injury.  I don't think his lineup spot is guaranteed and he could clear waivers. 

 

Waiving Dvorak is what I want though. 

[hab29RETIRED]

20 minutes ago, Commandant said:

 

Is RHP assured a spot on the team, or is he the one waived and sent to Laval.  He had a crazy run of hot shooting in 2022-23, but he wasn't very good in 2023-24 and is now coming back from injury.  I don't think his lineup spot is guaranteed and he could clear waivers. 

 

Waiving Dvorak is what I want though. 

Was hoping we could get something for him. Doubt if anyone would even claim this bum. How a player can go multiple games with zero shots and zero hits is beyond me. For a guy with his minutes, it's inexcusable. The trade for him was a stupid panic move.  let him rot in Laval. 
 

Our biggest issue is we have too many high priced veterans that are grossly overpaid and and are either lousy role models for the kids (Dvorak, Anderson, Armia), or paid too much for their place in the lineup, but can't insulate the young players, because they really aren't good options to play higher in the lineup when required (Gallagher, Savard). At least three of them should be gone this year. But I'd waive Dvorak now. There no longer are any injury excuses for his defenders.

[tomh009]

4 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said:

Our biggest issue is we have too many high priced veterans that are grossly overpaid and and are either lousy role models for the kids (Dvorak, Anderson, Armia)

I don't think Anderson and Armia are poor role models, both are working hard, have good attitude and are winning board battles, even if they are not able to put pucks in the net. The overpriced contracts really have nothing to do with whether they can set a good example or not.

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

13 minutes ago, tomh009 said:

I don't think Anderson and Armia are poor role models, both are working hard, have good attitude and are winning board battles, even if they are not able to put pucks in the net. The overpriced contracts really have nothing to do with whether they can set a good example or not.

 

I would agree, the effort has been there for those guys. Dvorak on the other hand??  You would think a guy in his last year of his contract before becoming a UFA would be busting his ass. 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

1 hour ago, Commandant said:

 

Is RHP assured a spot on the team, or is he the one waived and sent to Laval.  He had a crazy run of hot shooting in 2022-23, but he wasn't very good in 2023-24 and is now coming back from injury.  I don't think his lineup spot is guaranteed and he could clear waivers. 

 

Waiving Dvorak is what I want though. 

Hughes has some tough decisions coming up. 
 

I do think RHP would clear waivers and perhaps this is what they do. I question whether Hughes is willing to risk losing him when there are waiver free moves available. 
 

I agree that the best solution is waiving then demoting Dvorak. 

[hab29RETIRED]

31 minutes ago, tomh009 said:

I don't think Anderson and Armia are poor role models, both are working hard, have good attitude and are winning board battles, even if they are not able to put pucks in the net. The overpriced contracts really have nothing to do with whether they can set a good example or not.

Last year both were crap (Armia was good after being sent down). You want consistency from veterans - at least from an effort standpoint point. There have been too many games when Anderson brings zero physicality. I was shocked when he dropped the gloves last game. He is better than last year, but it's a REALLY low bar. He's been good in the penalty kill, but still has issues meshing with linemates.

 

Too many games this year where Dvorak, Anderson and Armia have been no shows. Gallagher is overpaid, but at least shows up MOST nights.

[hab29RETIRED]

3 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Hughes has some tough decisions coming up. 
 

I do think RHP would clear waivers and perhaps this is what they do. I question whether Hughes is willing to risk losing him when there are waiver free moves available. 
 

I agree that the best solution is waiving then demoting Dvorak. 

If he loses him we lose him. I'd still waive Dvorak and RHP. I'd also give Kapanan a few more games but it might be better for him to go back to Sweden - it's too bad we can't send him to Laval. He doesn't look like he is ready and probably needs to marinate in a lower league longer.

 

[alfredoh2009]

16 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Waive Dvorak and bring Beck up

 

😍 😍 😍  BECK 😍 😍 😍 

 

Let him dominate in Laval a bit longer, there is no rush.

 

 

 

[alfredoh2009]

10 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said:

I think per wee Herman could replace Dvorak's offense.

 

is he good at winning face offs?

[alfredoh2009]

5 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

I am starting to wonder if Roy is going to get screwed this season. He is definitely playing well enough for a call up. 
 

RHP should be back sometime in November and I’m not sure how Hughes will handle that. 
 

Kapanen to Europe? Heineman to Laval? Waive Dvorak?

 

I'm not sure there is room for Roy (or Beck). 

 

IMHO:

1. there is nothing wring with sending Kapanen for a last season in Europe. They can ask him to work on his face-offs a bit more and to improve his pace. A bit like Suzuki when he was sent down his last season. But RHP needs to earn Kapanen's spot in the lineup and show he is fully recovered.

 

2. If Heineman remains hot, keep him, otherwise he can go back down to make room for Roy if Roy continues to dominate.

 

 

 

[alfredoh2009]

6 hours ago, DON said:

Owen Beck’s short-handed winner pushes Laval win streak to six

 

"Laurent Dauphin and Filip Mesar remained sidelined by injuries, while they were joined by Alex Barré-Boulet and Jakub Dobeš, who are both day to day....

However, an errant pass along the walls by Sean Farrell allowed Georgii Merkulov to quickly snap a shot over Hughes and tie the game....

The Rocket might have started the third period short-handed, but no one appeared to have told Gignac as he became a one-man penalty kill in the opening minute. After he created one rush chance, he then stole the puck, dangled between defenders, and set up a relatively simple backhand goal for Owen Beck."

 

 

Mailloux has fairly high shooting %.

Roy putting pucks on net.

 

that was a good road game. I continue to be impressed by how well the coaching staff has gotten the players to buy into the system.

The Rocket took too many penalties, but the PK was stellar and the goalie made some very good saves. By rolling all lines and pairs all evening, the team had enough energy at the end of the game to stifle any comeback effort by Providence.

 

GIgnac showed that he has not lost too much speed. Specially on the PK where he was on beast mode.

 

Mailloux played well, but it was more Whotherspoon and Jacobs that seemed to calm the play. Lindstrom and Trudeau also played well. Last year I was critical of Trudeau, this year he is not noticeable which is good in his case. I also continue to be happily impressed by the steady play from Engstrom. He is just smooth out there.

 

I am looking forward to see how this team react is they start loosing: I want to see the level of character and maturity from the key prospects.

I am also curious to see how the coaches handle any slack in play. Right now they are doing a great job managing the injuries

 

[DON]

1-1 end of 1st period

Beck/Roy 2 shots.

19:10

Vincent Arseneau (1) None

 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

This is Roy banging on Hughes’ door screaming, LET ME IN

[dlbalr]

8 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

What I meant by screwed is that he might get stuck in Laval all season because there is no room. 
 

What happens when RHP comes back?

 

Who gets moved (trade or sent down)? Does RHP become #14 forward? Even if there is a rotation I don’t see room for Roy unless there are intentional moves to make room for him. 

 

You're quite optimistic about the Habs not getting hit with a rash of injuries up front, it seems.  The opportunity will be there for Roy (or someone else) at some point this season.

 

6-3 the final today.

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