Koivu11 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Thank You Steve!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Was that Gainey's first move? One of them anyhow. Waiver pickup - desperately needed back then. Another testament to Gainey - he was required back then, and now his skill-set just isn't good enough for the Habs. That said, what a great guy to have during that stretch. His energy will be hard to replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HABBER-oooooKNOWS Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I'm surprised nobody is mentioning the fact that this may not only be a salary dump but making room for another trade. What does janik make compared to Steve. Bob might be trying to create space for a bigger trade in the next few days. Thanks Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mont Royale Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I'm surprised nobody is mentioning the fact that this may not only be a salary dump but making room for another trade. What does janik make compared to Steve. Bob might be trying to create space for a bigger trade in the next few days. On the radio, they said that Janik and Begin make pretty close to the same amount. This appears to be a courtesy move by Gainey to send Begin where he'll see some ice time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Janik will probably report to Hamilton, so he won't count against our cap. And as everyone else has said, thank you Steve for your dedication, effort and hustle. I hope you can find another place to play in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Nhlnumbers site says Janik is $500 K while Begin is $1.3 million. That's $800 K saved which is significant. Maybe it'll help us on Wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 On the radio, they said that Janik and Begin make pretty close to the same amount. This appears to be a courtesy move by Gainey to send Begin where he'll see some ice time. Begin's cap hit was 1.057 mill, Janik is 500,000. That being said, Janik will probably go straight to Hamilton and never count against our cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrhabs Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Bonne chance Steve ! I wish half the team had your heart ... then we would be places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mont Royale Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Begin's cap hit was 1.057 mill, Janik is 500,000. That being said, Janik will probably go straight to Hamilton and never count against our cap. I'll remember not to count on the Fan 590 for cap information again! But good point on Janik to Hamilton... I suppose the roster spot will be filled by a returning injured guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Now Dandy has requested a trade. This will shave off another 1.75 off the books. TSN - Dandenault politely asks to be moved I would have launched another thread but this might get out of hand. Forty threads later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Jeez eh, I'm starting to not like this new trend. Whats it comming to when even the French players dont want to play in Montreal. I always liked Begin, but he is semi injury prone and the Habs have too many players who all basically do the same role. Its to bad, but Bob did need to move him, especially if he was unhappy. You cant have people around that are unhappy like that, it becomes a cancer, and needs to be removed ASAP. Hopefully BGL will get more ice time and be happier. The Habs cant loose BGL or they wont get beyond 1st round. Good Luck Begin, heres to seeing you in the finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy Ryder Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I hope for him to come back in the East next year, play for Boston and make the hockey staff realise that they made a mistake on how to use your players. These are not juggling balls this is professional athletes and when given a role and stability they will give results to the task. That is why players are not happy with the coach. They(the players) have no identity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan84 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Just to dump salary with Begin. I thank him for all that he has done for the organization and knowing that we wouldnt have signed him during the summer it made sense to just get rid of him. Janik is just there for Depth even though he'll never play a gme for the Habs. Obyrne deserves games before him. So Thankyou Begin. Your heart will be missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitforming Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 This ranks right up there in the who cares department. I liked the guys heart but his leaving will have as much impact on the team as Doug Janik will. The only way this becomes significant is if Dandy (Maybe big George too) is moved as well and the extra cap space is used on an impact player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I hope for him to come back in the East next year, play for Boston and make the hockey staff realise that they made a mistake on how to use your players. These are not juggling balls this is professional athletes and when given a role and stability they will give results to the task. That is why players are not happy with the coach. They(the players) have no identity. lets not ever miss a chance to slag the coach. how exactly do u know the team is not happy with the coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Jeez eh, I'm starting to not like this new trend. Whats it comming to when even the French players dont want to play in Montreal. I always liked Begin, but he is semi injury prone and the Habs have too many players who all basically do the same role. Its to bad, but Bob did need to move him, especially if he was unhappy. You cant have people around that are unhappy like that, it becomes a cancer, and needs to be removed ASAP. Hopefully BGL will get more ice time and be happier. The Habs cant loose BGL or they wont get beyond 1st round. Good Luck Begin, heres to seeing you in the finals. he was not unhappy if you listen to bob he asked at the beginning of the year if it was possible to move him near the deadline to a team where he had a chance at a regular spot. He realised he would not have a regular spot in montreal and he wants to play. Very professional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zumpano21 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Has someone with the Cap Smarts done the calculation to see how much cap room we have now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsy Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I couldn't stand the sight of him after that dumb penalty in Philadelphia last year. Farewell Mr. Begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Thanks for all the hard work Steve. Wont miss your poorly timed penalty's. Stewart and Chipchura are better suited for this team now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Such is Hockey. Begin got pushed aside by younger, bigger, cheaper crash & bangers. As Carbo said: this is the Law of the Jungle. Survival of the fittest. Thanks Steve for your total dedication. Best of luck in Dallas. In the same trend: Gainey said he was now mostly looking to find a C that could replace Lang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 The Gazette has a good summary of the Cap implications and the reasons behind the trade. Anyone else contrasting Begin's team- first approach to the antics of BGL and getting pissed at Big George all over again? http://www.montrealgazette.com/Sports/Habs...2748/story.html Thanks for all hard work Steve. I wish you all the best but I still hate Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Think back to the playoff when he had his jaw busted, then comes back with the cage on and is a whirling dervish smashing into people even with a broken jaw. I love Begin, and I am very sorry that out of Dandy Laraque and Begin, he is the one to go. His story is a good one too. If I remember right, he had a poor education and hockey is the only thing he can count on for money. A guy like Begin should play every game that he isn't injured. His heart will be missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Think back to the playoff when he had his jaw busted, then comes back with the cage on and is a whirling dervish smashing into people even with a broken jaw. I love Begin, and I am very sorry that out of Dandy Laraque and Begin, he is the one to go. His story is a good one too. If I remember right, he had a poor education and hockey is the only thing he can count on for money. A guy like Begin should play every game that he isn't injured. His heart will be missed. love the guy and miss him but on this team he could not play regular Bob did him a favour. No hard feelings either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombTHEice Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Dmd, that's a tough one - always liked his hard working style. But hey, maybe it's the best for him to get more ice time somewhere else and give the HABS some cap relief for possible trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy Ryder Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 lets not ever miss a chance to slag the coach. how exactly do u know the team is not happy with the coach? I didn't say the team but some of players are. You want names?? Just players who talked to media's. Kovalev, Bégin, Dandenault, Tanguay, Laraque. Player's who i suspect not happy to play the trap on 4 lines. Kost(2), Kovalev(again), Markov, Tanguay((again)left Calgary because of the trap). The question is do Carbonneau has the choice of playing the trap, no since they lost control of that team better play safe and build for the upcoming years while having to fight for playoffs and maybe be out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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