brobin Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Kolzig is now available and Halak's agent is suggesting that Halak is not interested in being a backup to a guy the GM has announced as his long term starter... I think Halak would prefer to be a backup to a vet goalie who will eventually go away. I think Kolzig is looking for a change of scenery. If he is willing to be a backup for Price, then I would be okay with signing him for a reasonable number. While it would be great to have Halak on the bench, I am not sure that is realistic. (if you truely believe that Price is the guy and going nowhere for years to come). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wamsley01 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 (edited) Kolzig is now available and Halak's agent is suggesting that Halak is not interested in being a backup to a guy the GM has announced as his long term starter... I think Halak would prefer to be a backup to a vet goalie who will eventually go away. I think Kolzig is looking for a change of scenery. If he is willing to be a backup for Price, then I would be okay with signing him for a reasonable number. While it would be great to have Halak on the bench, I am not sure that is realistic. (if you truely believe that Price is the guy and going nowhere for years to come). Would I rather trade him right now for almost nothing (mid round pick) or call his bluff and let him go to Europe? Right now I call his bluff, promise him 25 games and a chance to prove himself and see where it goes from there. If you trade him for a mid round pick and he develops into a stud you just gave him away for nothing, if he develops into a stud in Europe, you retain his rights and can get more for him than you can right now while employing a veteran backup goalie to mentor Price. If he stinks up the joint in his 25 game stint you send him to Hamilton and acquire a solid backup goalie on the cheap. I wouldn't deal him unless I was offered a package that was a no brainer. Edited May 9, 2008 by Wamsley01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Would I rather trade him right now for almost nothing (mid round pick) or call his bluff and let him go to Europe? Right now I call his bluff, promise him 25 games and a chance to prove himself and see where it goes from there. If you trade him for a mid round pick and he develops into a stud you just gave him away for nothing, if he develops into a stud in Europe, you retain his rights and can get more for him than you can right now while employing a veteran backup goalie to mentor Price. If he stinks up the joint in his 25 game stint you send him to Hamilton and acquire a solid backup goalie on the cheap. I wouldn't deal him unless I was offered a package that was a no brainer. I wouldn't deal him either, but i am not sure if we will have a choice. I agree the preference would be to get him to stay, at least for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wamsley01 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I wouldn't deal him either, but i am not sure if we will have a choice. I agree the preference would be to get him to stay, at least for now. I don't think Gainey will just let the kid walk. But he did with Perezhogin, so you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 One is for certain. I DO NOT want to se Kolzig in Montreal. The guy is too old and is finished as an NHL goalie. If we were to play him in 25 games, we'd be sure to lose 15 of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 One is for certain. I DO NOT want to se Kolzig in Montreal. The guy is too old and is finished as an NHL goalie. If we were to play him in 25 games, we'd be sure to lose 15 of them! I don't know about that. People said that about Belfour, Hasek, etc.. they all came back to be starters. In this case, we are talking about a vet backup. I am not sure we can expect much more for a backup goalie. Plus, the real value will be if he can provide moral support and vet type advice for Price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Kolzig said he wants a chance to be a starter on a contender if he's to sign with a new team. We don't offer him that opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Why does everyone want to get rid of Halak? Having 2 good young goalies is a good idea. Competition is what everyone needs, it's also a cheap. Price can play 55-60 games and Halak can play 25-30 games. No one wants to get rid of Halak. But apparently he wants to leave and if that's the case, we should listen to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAKS-AVENUE Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Kolzig said he wants a chance to be a starter on a contender if he's to sign with a new team. We don't offer him that opportunity. The guy needs to look in the mirror and realize that he's good but not what he used to be and he's almost 40. Besides, let's say we sign him and have a similar season as last and Price cheese's out again in the play-offs. Wouldn't that be Ollie's chance. There is a reason Washington kept playing Huet. Oh well if he's not ready to take a mentor back-up role it wouldn't be wise for us to sign him expecting that. Gainey also mentioned in the press conference that we were set in goal, and will be looking at outside help in forwards. My guess is it will be Price and Halak next year whether he likes it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMPL Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Isn't Cujo a free agent this offseason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAKS-AVENUE Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Isn't Cujo a free agent this offseason? Naaa, who cares about Cujo. I'd rather just stay with Halak and Price tandem. I got excited about Kolzig because him and Price have a friendship already and a lot of things in common. I thought maybe it would be a good thing like Theo and Hackett. I want Halak to stick around it's just a bummer he is already unhappy. You never know, He may rise above Price, nothing is etched in stone until we start seeing W's in the win column I hope Halak can remain patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 We're reading too much into Halak's inane (apparent) remark. I don't blame him for being frustrated, but the guy has to realize that no team in the NHL is going to give him the starter's job. He was basically jerked around by the Habs this year, but I doubt that this will prove true next season, so he needs to cool it. No way does Price get 70 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAKS-AVENUE Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 We're reading too much into Halak's inane (apparent) remark. I don't blame him for being frustrated, but the guy has to realize that no team in the NHL is going to give him the starter's job. He was basically jerked around by the Habs this year, but I doubt that this will prove true next season, so he needs to cool it. No way does Price get 70 games. Yup. The feeling is mutual. Sometimes we at Habsworld jump the gun on our prospects. It's true that Gainey has committed to Price but that doesn't mean he will play great all next year. The play-offs proved that he can have some serious melt downs and look like a below average goalie. I'm sure Jaro will get plenty of games based solely on Carey's slumps. I hope Jaro uses those moments to prove he should be #1. I don't want to lose him just yet and have yet another goalie slamming doors on another team. Much like the Theo, Garon situation we had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumGhost Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 (edited) I mean, everone knows Price is our guy, but should Halak be rewarded for his excellent play? Maybe let him play until he loses? Kinda unfair for Price since he didn't go out on a low note, but I think hard work deserves more ice. I mean, the guy has 2 goals allowed in 120 minutes with a save % of like .967 or something like that. Edited October 22, 2008 by ForumGhost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 No. Price needs to play even more than Halak, we can't let him seat more than 1 week. Price has to play the next 3 games at least IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 That wouldn't be fair to Price. Halak was awesome Monday night but Price has been outstanding in every game that he has played. We are fortunate to have two solid goalies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HABBER-oooooKNOWS Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 play him enough so that we don't burn Price out, and enough so that when we need to make a trade it will be just Halak we give up and not Higgins, prospects we like etc....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 The Goalie coach already said he was going to play 25-30 games. Forum Ghost, Price hasn't lost either, so should he play until he loses? The bottom line is there is no goalie contraversy, Price is the man now and the future. Halak was told he would play in a certain amount of games and he is taking advantage of it. Good for him, it makes the team much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Give 'em 50-50! I am biased, though, Halak is my backup in my fantasy league and is getting me more points than my starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I would not since there is almost a week off, too long for Price to sit. I would give him a game in the next 3. I want to see Halak play at least a third of the games. I want to go into the playoffs with a rested Price and a sharp Halak. Let's not repeat last years mistake. Price is the go to guy now with Huet gone, he has nothing to fear from Halak playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Give 'em 50-50! I am biased, though, Halak is my backup in my fantasy league and is getting me more points than my starter. WOW who's your starter ?? Gerber ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 The Goalie coach already said he was going to play 25-30 games. sounds like a good plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMPL Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Right now, we got the best one, two punch in net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Give him 25-30 starts... like they said they were gonna... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 (edited) Mark my words... Halak will not finish the season in Montreal! He will be traded! Edited October 22, 2008 by Habsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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