alfredoh2009 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, dlbalr said: Well, my turn to propose one. To Dallas: Joel Armia, RW, 28, three years left at $3.4M Small sweetener (fourth-round pick or equivalent prospect) To Montreal: Radek Faksa, C, 28, three years left at $3.25M Both players have struggled badly this year (Faksa has two goals and 11 assists in 51 games). Both players have shown flashes of offensive upside over the years (Faksa's career high in points is 33, Armia 30) but are basically just overpaid checkers. Faksa plays the more premium position and costs a tiny bit less on the cap hence the need for some sort of small sweetener from the Canadiens. Dallas has Seguin, Benn, Pavelski, and Hintz that all play down the middle (some full-time, some part-time) so they can afford to move out a centre. The Habs, meanwhile, have winger depth but less depth at centre. It's a basic change of scenery swap involving bottom six players with the hopes that the change sparks them. ship it! If Armia needs a ride to the airport, I can take him there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Dvorak 2C, Evans 3C, Faksa 4C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Dvorak 2C, Evans 3C, Faksa 4C? I would go Dvorak - Faksa - Evans ... but I would also come pretty close to rolling those three until separation occurs naturally, so the distinction would likely be more in who gets which wingers than TOI for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 hours ago, tomh009 said: Dvorak 2C, Evans 3C, Faksa 4C? Poor Poehling, gets no respect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 11 hours ago, GHT120 said: I would go Dvorak - Faksa - Evans ... but I would also come pretty close to rolling those three until separation occurs naturally, so the distinction would likely be more in who gets which wingers than TOI for now. That's the order I'd go with as well, at least to start. If Faksa really has fallen off a cliff offensively, then yeah, Evans would go ahead of him on the depth chart. 8 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: Poor Poehling, gets no respect Poehling can go to the wing which is where he may fit better anyway. As I've said before, I also don't think he's in their long-term plans. His performance this season isn't suggesting he has much left in terms of upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Poehling can either go to the wing which is where he may fit better anyway. As I've said before, I also don't think he's in their long-term plans. His performance this season isn't suggesting he has much left in terms of upside. Wait - you mean he’s NOT a sure-fire Danault replacement?? 😮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 9 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: Poor ***** Poehling *****, gets no respect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 With Chiarot gone, this is the next BIG trade I would love to see: To Montreal: Filip Forsberg(6.0M, pending UFA), Alexandre Carrier(RD $.733M until 2023) and 2nd 2023 To Nashville: Lehkonen, Hoffman($4.5M until 2024) and a throw-in like Niku or Wideman. Montreal gets an aging 1st-line start on an expiring contract that they can evaluate for fit and try to sign. Most importantly, they get a top-4 RD Nashville replaces Forsberg with Hoffman for their current play-off run without being saddled with another albatross contract like Duchene or Johansen. They also get Lehkonen who would improve their roster greatly. The defenseman throw-in fills the void left by Carrier but to a lesser degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) to recap, I think Lehkonen will be traded in a package either to Pittsburgh or to Nashville via GIPHY Edited March 17, 2022 by alfredoh2009 added GIF for good measure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: With Chiarot gone, this is the next BIG trade I would love to see: To Montreal: Filip Forsberg(6.0M, pending UFA), Alexandre Carrier(RD $.733M until 2023) and 2nd 2023 To Nashville: Lehkonen, Hoffman($4.5M until 2024) and a throw-in like Niku or Wideman. Montreal gets an aging 1st-line start on an expiring contract that they can evaluate for fit and try to sign. Most importantly, they get a top-4 RD Nashville replaces Forsberg with Hoffman for their current play-off run without being saddled with another albatross contract like Duchene or Johansen. They also get Lehkonen who would improve their roster greatly. The defenseman throw-in fills the void left by Carrier but to a lesser degree. Nashville is actively working on an extension for Forsberg and I think this trade makes them worse this year, not better. There's no possible way they do this. Forsberg has 31 goals this season already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: With Chiarot gone, this is the next BIG trade I would love to see: To Montreal: Filip Forsberg(6.0M, pending UFA), Alexandre Carrier(RD $.733M until 2023) and 2nd 2023 To Nashville: Lehkonen, Hoffman($4.5M until 2024) and a throw-in like Niku or Wideman. Montreal gets an aging 1st-line start on an expiring contract that they can evaluate for fit and try to sign. Most importantly, they get a top-4 RD Nashville replaces Forsberg with Hoffman for their current play-off run without being saddled with another albatross contract like Duchene or Johansen. They also get Lehkonen who would improve their roster greatly. The defenseman throw-in fills the void left by Carrier but to a lesser degree. Don't see how this makes any sense from Nashville's perspective. They give up their best forward right before the playoffs, and replace him with Hoffman? Lekky's probably going for future assets just like Toffoli and Chiarot did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Nashville is actively working on an extension for Forsberg and I think this trade makes them worse this year, not better. There's no possible way they do this. Forsberg has 31 goals this season already. Like they say in Quebec "un gars s'essaie" translates more or less to, (in the third person) "I tried, even if not possible" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, alfredoh2009 said: Like they say in Quebec "un gars s'essaie" translates more or less to, (in the third person) "I tried, even if not possible" I think both of those players make some sense for Nashville if they decided to try to make an addition or two. But it'd be for future assets, not their top player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 48 minutes ago, dlbalr said: I think both of those players make some sense for Nashville if they decided to try to make an addition or two. But it'd be for future assets, not their top player. From what I read yesterday on Forsberg, it seemed like he would not be signing back with NSH Also, they are very unlikely to get out of the division; so, I think they may cut the losses and make lemonade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, alfredoh2009 said: Also, they are very unlikely to get out of the division; so, I think they may cut the losses and make lemonade Most GMs tend to think like Bergevin: anything can happen in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 9 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: From what I read yesterday on Forsberg, it seemed like he would not be signing back with NSH Also, they are very unlikely to get out of the division; so, I think they may cut the losses and make lemonade Teams in a playoff spot don't sell at the deadline. Maybe they don't get out of their division but they can still get to the second round depending on the matchup. They're not selling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Apparently Robin Lehner's injury is significant. Vegas is sinking and might miss the playoffs entirely. Jake Allen returns to the Habs lineup tonight. ---- Allen for Brendan Brisson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, Commandant said: Apparently Robin Lehner's injury is significant. Vegas is sinking and might miss the playoffs entirely. Jake Allen returns to the Habs lineup tonight. ---- Allen for Brendan Brisson Would MAF be the obvious choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 43 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Would MAF be the obvious choice? Might be too expensive a choice. Allen might be a great stop gap measure until Lehner is healthy. I guess it depends on how desperate Vegas is to make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Commandant said: Allen for Brendan Brisson Hughes old rival's kid is pretty good is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, DON said: Hughes old rival's kid is pretty good is he? 18 goals and 35 points in 34 games as a sophomore ... so looks like he may be pretty good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 If you're looking to ponder trade scenarios, plenty of teams are watching the Habs tonight: Yes, Dallas has two scouts there technically watching their own team. They've been keeping tabs on Montreal for a bit and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 On 3/16/2022 at 10:36 PM, alfredoh2009 said: From what I read yesterday on Forsberg, it seemed like he would not be signing back with NSH Also, they are very unlikely to get out of the division; so, I think they may cut the losses and make lemonade I am reading different today, @dlbalr you were right: The Nashville Predators have re-engaged in contract negotiations with Filip Forsberg’s agent, J.P. Barry. The Preds have maintained their focus is on extending Forsberg rather than trading their top goal scorer. Sounds like marginal progress has been made to this point. — Darren Dreger (@DarrenDreger) March 18, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 2:20 PM, Commandant said: Apparently Robin Lehner's injury is significant. Vegas is sinking and might miss the playoffs entirely. Jake Allen returns to the Habs lineup tonight. ---- Allen for Brendan Brisson I haven't seen much about Allen being in play, but if he is, I would be very surprised he wouldn't be a fairly hot commodity. I could easily see scenarios where Edmonton or Dallas would make a play for Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 7:58 PM, dlbalr said: If you're looking to ponder trade scenarios, plenty of teams are watching the Habs tonight: Yes, Dallas has two scouts there technically watching their own team. They've been keeping tabs on Montreal for a bit and vice versa. From those teams' scouts, there have been some trades but only a few that significantly improved a team's chances of the cup. BUYERS: FLA Add(Chiarot, Giroux, Hagg, Giroux) CGY Add(Toffoli, Jarnkrok) TBL Add(Paul, Hagel), NYR Add(Vatrano) WPG Add(Appleton) VAN Add(Dermott) DAL Add(Wedgewood) EDM Move(Stalok) SELLERS: CHI Add(Raddysh, Katchouk, 2x1st draft picks) ANA Move(Manson, Deslauriers, Lindholm, Curran) Add(2022-1st, 2023-2x2nd+3rd, 2024-2nd) PHI (Tippet & 1st+3rd for Giroux) DET Move(Stecher) NJD (0) NYI (0) CBJ (0) Teams that did not have scouts at this game but that have been very active: TOR, SEA, ARI I still see a possibility that Lehkonen gets traded (I proposed Pittsburgh or Nashville, but I really don't know where). I am surprised Dallas, St-Louis, Edmonton have been quiet so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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