dlbalr Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 According to multiple reports, the deal is basically done. Toffoli to Calgary for a 1st, 5th, prospect Emil Heineman, and winger Tyler Pitlick (who is basically cap/contract ballast). http://www.habsworld.net/2022/02/habs-trade-tyler-toffoli-to-calgary/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Heineman wont count against 50 contract limit... so still 48/50 Is the first this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhfarber Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2022 1st top-10 protected. If top 10 it becomes a 1st in 2023 plus Calgary's 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 A first for toffoli not bad if we get a first for chariot we're looking good a lot of options come draft day. We could either use the picks in a trade for a player to fit in now or use them to move up if theirs a player we like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Here is our report on Heineman from his draft year https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2020/05/22/emil-heineman-scouting-report/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, nhfarber said: 2022 1st top-10 protected. If top 10 it becomes a 1st in 2023 plus Calgary's 4th. And (I believe) the 2023 first would be unprotected in that scenario...not that I expect Calgary to slip that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 A recent column on Heineman: https://calgarysun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/calgary-flames/high-energy-prospect-emil-heineman-aiming-for-hopefully-a-lot-of-seasons-in-calgary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, Commandant said: Here is our report on Heineman from his draft year https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2020/05/22/emil-heineman-scouting-report/ Thanks for the article. I knew nothing about this guy. How many Pitlicks do we need - I know it was a cap dump 😊 Im hoping Chairot and Petry are soon to follow. I expect other moves such as a potential Gallagher trade to be offseason. I am full of hope for our future but I will miss Toffoli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 Trade call is done and the deal is official as originally reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: I am full of hope for our future but I will miss Toffoli So will I. And I expect that Suzuki will,too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Sad to see him go, not a clue if that is 'great or good' haul for him... but seems substantial and step in right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Wow. Thanks guys for the articles on Heineman. I will really miss Tofolli but I like this trade. Now it's time to cheer against the Flames (although I hope Toffoli does well) so that pick might be in the teen's (wishful thinking). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 And let the rebuild start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 When you think that the cost for Montreal to get Toffoli was nothing (just 4.5M in cap space), then the return looks pretty good. Habs will also get more cap space next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, Commandant said: Here is our report on Heineman from his draft year https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2020/05/22/emil-heineman-scouting-report/ if he becomes as good as Lehkonen (consistent, creating lots of scoring chances and defensibly reliable) this is a win. Having the brothers Rem and Rhett with their cousin Tyler is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) Heineman playing on a forward stacked Leksand in SHL. Edited February 14, 2022 by Dalhabs Possible forward lines in leksand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 this is funny 🤣 Reunited. pic.twitter.com/v6brnOMYD2 — Calgary Flames (@NHLFlames) February 14, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2021-22 Leksands IFSHL 36gm 11g 16pts 9points in last 10games in SHL (if i read elite prospects note correctly.) 10 6 3 9 -1 10 6 3 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 One thing that this trade also makes clear (if there was any doubt) is that the Habs are in full rebuild mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: One thing that this trade also makes clear (if there was any doubt) is that the Habs are in full rebuild mode. considering the changes in the organization, a full rebuild is the right way to go. However I don’t see the Habs going for losing or tanking seasons to accomplish this. I think we trade our vets for picks and try and win with whatever we have. look at the difference in Caufield and Poehling already. Marty needs to hire a really solid Defensive coach to build up the back end. Ducharme and Bergevin don’t understand what modern NHL Dmen look like. I think Price should stay as a mentor as he transitions to back up duty - unless there is some major market for him. We will be champions again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: One thing that this trade also makes clear (if there was any doubt) is that the Habs are in full rebuild mode. Toffoli is about to turn 30, and would probably be 33 or so by the time we are ready to contend. And by that time he would have probably wanted another 4+ year contract. So, yeah, this is not a one or two-year reset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I would have wanted a higher value asset in return for Toffoli - a late 1st and a marginal prospect isn't much for one of our few guys on a decent contract. Here's hoping the Flames fall apart and that pick slides into the mid-teens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Ducharme and Bergevin don’t understand what modern NHL Dmen look like. Ducharme would not have been the one choosing the Clydesdale D option, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 42 minutes ago, dlbalr said: A recent column on Heineman: https://calgarysun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/calgary-flames/high-energy-prospect-emil-heineman-aiming-for-hopefully-a-lot-of-seasons-in-calgary This makes me more hopeful about Heineman's upside - maybe he'll be our Swedish Lekhonen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Ducharme would not have been the one choosing the Clydesdale D option, though. He was the one that continually played Savard and Chairot together. Two players with the exact same strengths and weaknesses who were routinely beat the same way game after game - because Ducharme did not use analytics or even have the common sense to listen to others who complained about it too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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