GHT120 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Dan Milstein is his agent, but: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 4th pick also for sale? One the Habs may have the parts for, prospects/picks. https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/06/blue-jackets-notes-fourth-overall-pick-laine-hartley.html Blue Jackets Notes: Fourth Overall Pick, Laine, Hartley JUNE 20, 2024 AT 9:50 AM CDT | BY JOSH ERICKSON 6 COMMENTS "The Blue Jackets are open for business regarding their fourth overall pick in next week’s draft, GM and president of hockey operations Don Waddell said today (via Brian Hedger of the Columbus Dispatch). They wouldn’t be looking at shopping the pick for an immediate roster upgrade, though."... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Craig Button’s FINAL top 5 2024 prospect rankings: 1. Macklin Celebrini (C) 2. Ivan Demidov (LW) 3. Tij Iginla (LW) 4. Zeev Buium (D) 5. Cole Eiserman (LW) Rankings continue to be all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 53 minutes ago, DON said: 4th pick also for sale? One the Habs may have the parts for, prospects/picks. https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/06/blue-jackets-notes-fourth-overall-pick-laine-hartley.html Blue Jackets Notes: Fourth Overall Pick, Laine, Hartley JUNE 20, 2024 AT 9:50 AM CDT | BY JOSH ERICKSON 6 COMMENTS "The Blue Jackets are open for business regarding their fourth overall pick in next week’s draft, GM and president of hockey operations Don Waddell said today (via Brian Hedger of the Columbus Dispatch). They wouldn’t be looking at shopping the pick for an immediate roster upgrade, though."... Laine+ Columbus 1st for: Winnipeg 1st Montreal 2nd Harris Anderson Mesar or Kapanan or Winnipeg 1st Matheson Montreal 2nd Anderson would that be enough? does Columbus only want to move down if the pick is still in top 10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted June 20 Author Share Posted June 20 49 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: Laine+ Columbus 1st for: Winnipeg 1st Montreal 2nd Harris Anderson Mesar or Kapanan or Winnipeg 1st Matheson Montreal 2nd Anderson would that be enough? does Columbus only want to move down if the pick is still in top 10? If I am Montreal I would do either one of those deals in a hearbeat but Columbus will want more if giving up the #4 pick. It would be awesome to end up with the 4 and 5 picks. There is also the Don Waddell factor, is he still mad at the Habs, or was that more the owner. Maybe with Hughes in charge there is a better chance of a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 5th & X? for their 4th maybe? Waddell will move back but not too far is my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Picks are always "available" in the lead up to the draft. Is this the year they actually get traded or is it much ado about nothing as normal (a top 5 pick hasn't been moved since 2008, a top 3 pick since 2003). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 EP guys answering draft questions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU1J2uoY0Co Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commandant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 A disc herniation effecting nerves in his leg doesnt sound good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, Commandant said: A disc herniation effecting nerves in his leg doesn't sound good. It isn't when it happens ... whether it impacts his draft status depends on whether the medical personnel on teams have concerns about recurrence. Edited June 21 by GHT120 add "on whether" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, GHT120 said: It isn't when it happens ... whether it impacts his draft status depends the medical personnel on teams have concerns about recurrence. It doesn't sound great, I think it's hard to determine at this point whether it may reoccur or not. I am certainly not even close to being any sort of medical expert but I am betting he drops a couple spots because of it. Teams just can't afford to mess up a high pick and it likely creates a little uncertainty. I really like Tig Iginla at 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Back problems always seem to be chronic. This pick is too important to screw up and because of that I would pass on Lindstrom. Iginla is safest IMO but Demidov has potential to be a star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 3 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: It doesn't sound great, I think it's hard to determine at this point whether it may reoccur or not. I am certainly not even close to being any sort of medical expert but I am betting he drops a couple spots because of it. Teams just can't afford to mess up a high pick and it likely creates a little uncertainty. I really like Tig Iginla at 5. I agree 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Huge growth spurt, some puck skills and a late riser that Hughes might like. 2024 NHL Draft prospect: Beckett Sennecke more than a big body (habseyesontheprize.com) "One of the first things you’re bound to notice when watching a Generals game is the puck-on-a-string ridiculousness that Sennecke is capable of. He has some of the best hands of anyone available in this draft, and can flat-out embarrass opponents with his moves. He can turn defenders and goaltenders inside-out, and tries some really unorthodox looking handles that seem like they should end up as turnovers, but he somehow pulls them off." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 10 minutes ago, DON said: Huge growth spurt, some puck skills and a late riser that Hughes might like. 2024 NHL Draft prospect: Beckett Sennecke more than a big body (habseyesontheprize.com) "One of the first things you’re bound to notice when watching a Generals game is the puck-on-a-string ridiculousness that Sennecke is capable of. He has some of the best hands of anyone available in this draft, and can flat-out embarrass opponents with his moves. He can turn defenders and goaltenders inside-out, and tries some really unorthodox looking handles that seem like they should end up as turnovers, but he somehow pulls them off." Has great hands and has moved up so quickly. It will be interesting to see where McKenzie has him ranked. I think Iginla is the safer pick but Sennecke's upside is intriguing. A lot of skill here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 15 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Has great hands and has moved up so quickly. It will be interesting to see where McKenzie has him ranked. I think Iginla is the safer pick but Sennecke's upside is intriguing. A lot of skill here. Yes, but is Lindstrom a Getzlaf 2.0? Or Demidov a 50+ goal sniper? And how high do they rate a Buium or other d, do their scouts see a projected #1 d-man in the group? Also as curious what 'out of left field' trade(s) Hughes comes up with in next couple weeks. Just not another convoluted Flames conditional 1st pick one i hope; they must of been drinking when come up with that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 25 minutes ago, DON said: Yes, but is Lindstrom a Getzlaf 2.0? Or Demidov a 50+ goal sniper? And how high do they rate a Buium or other d, do their scouts see a projected #1 d-man in the group? Also as curious what 'out of left field' trade(s) Hughes comes up with in next couple weeks. Just not another convoluted Flames conditional 1st pick one i hope; they must of been drinking when come up with that one. I have always liked Lindstrom thinking he could be another Getzlaf, big and talented with a mean streak. His injury has me a little concerned though. I think Demidov is gone before we draft but who knows. I think if the Habs are choosing a forward then it will likely come down to Lindstrom, Iginla or maybe Sennecke. Don't see them drafting a defensemen unless another deal is made. But I am just guessing like everyone else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 I don't see Sennecke as a top 5 pick. To me making that ranking on 6 weeks of playoffs is a bit overrating those results... no one was talking about him in the top 10, never mind the top 5 before the OHL playoffs started. It seems too small a sample size to move him that high. Overrating small sample sizes was a mistake we already made before with Andrei Kostitsyn, and with Jesperi Kotkaniemi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 27 minutes ago, Commandant said: I don't see Sennecke as a top 5 pick. To me making that ranking on 6 weeks of playoffs is a bit overrating those results... no one was talking about him in the top 10, never mind the top 5 before the OHL playoffs started. It seems too small a sample size to move him that high. Overrating small sample sizes was a mistake we already made before with Andrei Kostitsyn, and with Jesperi Kotkaniemi. I don't disagree, it is a small sample size but his puck skills are tremendous. It might be a stretch at 5 but somebody will fall in love with his potential. It will be a very interesting draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: I have always liked Lindstrom thinking he could be another Getzlaf, big and talented with a mean streak. His injury has me a little concerned though. I think Demidov is gone before we draft but who knows. I think if the Habs are choosing a forward then it will likely come down to Lindstrom, Iginla or maybe Sennecke. Don't see them drafting a defensemen unless another deal is made. But I am just guessing like everyone else. I'm still bitter for us not taking Getzlaf, but we already have one guy who has been injury prone in his career up to now Dach, not sure if as one of the most injured teams in the league the last few years I'd want to take a chance on a guy with a herniated disk. I want Deminov, but it's sounding more and more like he will be gone. Ideal situation would be to be able to pick Deminov (but that will require on teams passing on him) AND adding another top 4-7 pick. If we can get the 2nd high #1, we can pretty much get the last key pieces for our future core, and than start assets to build around that core. if someone in the top 7 is willing to live the puck for a package that includes Matheson, I'd do it. If during the draft, it looks like a high end forward like Iginla/Sennecke/Lindstrom/Eiserman or a D like Patel/Buium/Dickerson are still available, I'd like to try and get the Buffalo or NJD picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said: I'm still bitter for us not taking Getzlaf, but we already have one guy who has been injury prone in his career up to now Dach, not sure if as one of the most injured teams in the league the last few years I'd want to take a chance on a guy with a herniated disk. I want Deminov, but it's sounding more and more like he will be gone. Ideal situation would be to be able to pick Deminov (but that will require on teams passing on him) AND adding another top 4-7 pick. If we can get the 2nd high #1, we can pretty much get the last key pieces for our future core, and than start assets to build around that core. if someone in the top 7 is willing to live the puck for a package that includes Matheson, I'd do it. If during the draft, it looks like a high end forward like Iginla/Sennecke/Lindstrom/Eiserman or a D like Patel/Buium/Dickerson are still available, I'd like to try and get the Buffalo or NJD picks. Yeah, getting a stud like Getzlaf at 19 and following it up with Perry at 28, hope the Anaheim scouting staff got nice bonuses that year. I think Matheson would round out the Devils defense nicely. Buffalo is stacked on the left side with Dahlin, Power and Byram so I don't see a fit there. Would love to get another high pick but unlikely to happen, teams say they are willing to trade their pick but most of the time it's just noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 18 other teams passed on Getzlaf, so the idea that Montreal should have drafted him is a bit revisionist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 21 minutes ago, Commandant said: 18 other teams passed on Getzlaf, so the idea that Montreal should have drafted him is a bit revisionist. Now if you really want to be revisionist and poke fun at teams for their drafting that year, how about the Rangers for drafting Hugh Jessiman at 12?? He played 2 games in his NHL career. TWO Maybe one of the worst picks of all time when you consider how many studs were drafted after him. At least Kostitsyn scored 103 goals in his career but obviously many better options were available as it turned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 23 hours ago, DON said: 5th & X? for their 4th maybe? Waddell will move back but not too far is my guess. It sounds like that's the only type of trade they'll consider. Not a trade out but a small trade back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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