Commandant Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Per Habs twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I like this signing, he probably could have got more on the open market. Big, strong, excellent skater, always seems to be on the cusp of breaking through and scoring 25 goals but seems to get slowed down by injuries when he gets things going. Glad he is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Good price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I think it's a little of an over payment for a guy when he's not scoring and disappears you don't notice him at all on the ice. When he's hot that's a different story but to inconsistent to be being paid $3.4mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Not a bad deal, I knew he'd be getting a raise after his strong playoffs. I predict he pots 20 goals at least one of the next four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Neech said: Not a bad deal, I knew he'd be getting a raise after his strong playoffs. I predict he pots 20 goals at least one of the next four years. I dont know if cost is too high or not, but like him coming back. I would predict he will get 40-45g in next 4 years (assume will miss a few games to injury in there somewhere, the way he crashes and bangs, similar to Anderson). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Way too much for a bottom-six forward. These are the contracts that often come back to bite teams, overpaying by that much for depth players is what takes away the ability to add another impact piece. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 Evolving Wild projected him at 3.6 AAV. I think its a fine contract given what he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I really like Armia, but We needed to sign him for around $2.5m, or at least under $3m (but only if we can move the Byron contract). Certainly can’t be giving out term and overpaying on salary. We can’t spend this much on bottom 6 players - especially when they are closer to 4th liners. We already overpay average dmen. Need to sign more pressing need players (top pairing dmen), before handing out contracts like this to bottom end guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Commandant said: Evolving Wild projected him at 3.6 AAV. I think its a fine contract given what he does. I find a lot of their projections to be on the high side, making a lot of actual contracts look like bargains by comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Same cap as Byron. I like Armia, and I think most would've expected more than his previous contract ($2.6M). Overall, interesting given Armia's comments at the end of the season seemed to lean towards him testing the market. That said, he needs to be better and bring more than Byron. I know Lehkonen isn't UFA, so how will his contract compare to Armia's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Puck Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Maybe we're lining up the Finns before we try to tempt Pettersson with an offer sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, DON said: I dont know if cost is too high or not, but like him coming back. I would predict he will get 40-45g in next 4 years (assume will miss a few games to injury in there somewhere, the way he crashes and bangs, similar to Anderson). He had 48 over the last four years, I'll say he hits that in 3 years barring major injury or shortened seasons. 9 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Way too much for a bottom-six forward. These are the contracts that often come back to bite teams, overpaying by that much for depth players is what takes away the ability to add another impact piece. He strikes me as entering his prime at the end of his 20's, as power forwards often do. Same contract as Byron, size is the major difference which makes him moveable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Peter Puck said: Maybe we're lining up the Finns before we try to tempt Pettersson with an offer sheet. With the size of MBs Cojones lately, I expect an offer sheet lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, Neech said: He strikes me as entering his prime at the end of his 20's, as power forwards often do. Same contract as Byron, size is the major difference which makes him moveable. The size potentially makes him easier to move but prime or not, he's a fourth liner on this team. He's behind Gallagher, Anderson, Toffoli, and Caufield and even with one of them moving to the off-wing, he'd still be fourth on the depth chart at RW. In this cap environment, they can't afford to be paying two fourth liners $3.4M apiece. In an ideal world, the entire fourth line would cost $3.4M total. A fourth line of Byron-Paquette-Armia (based on the rumblings of a Paquette signing) will be good defensively but it's not going to score much and on a team that badly needs offensive upgrades, the premium they're paying for that fourth line is going to be costly in the form of not being able to afford an offensive upgrade somewhere else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, huzer said: Same cap as Byron. I like Armia, and I think most would've expected more than his previous contract ($2.6M). Overall, interesting given Armia's comments at the end of the season seemed to lean towards him testing the market. That said, he needs to be better and bring more than Byron. I know Lehkonen isn't UFA, so how will his contract compare to Armia's? Lets be honest, he tested the market. Yes, legally teams can't talk to free agents til tomorrow, but we all know tampering is happening. Anyone signing today knows exactly what will be offered tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, Peter Puck said: Maybe we're lining up the Finns before we try to tempt Pettersson with an offer sheet. Lining up the Finns to sign a Swede? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Way too much for a bottom-six forward. These are the contracts that often come back to bite teams, overpaying by that much for depth players is what takes away the ability to add another impact piece. I tend to agree ... 5 of the top 9 wing spots are filled ... as it is, one of Armia or Drouin end up on the 4th line ... perhaps both if the Habs were to acquire a 3rd one winger who is a more consistent scorer ... even one of them on the 4th line is a cap issue IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, dlbalr said: The size potentially makes him easier to move but prime or not, he's a fourth liner on this team. He's behind Gallagher, Anderson, Toffoli, and Caufield and even with one of them moving to the off-wing, he'd still be fourth on the depth chart at RW. In this cap environment, they can't afford to be paying two fourth liners $3.4M apiece. In an ideal world, the entire fourth line would cost $3.4M total. A fourth line of Byron-Paquette-Armia (based on the rumblings of a Paquette signing) will be good defensively but it's not going to score much and on a team that badly needs offensive upgrades, the premium they're paying for that fourth line is going to be costly in the form of not being able to afford an offensive upgrade somewhere else. 100% agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Puck Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Commandant said: Lining up the Finns to sign a Swede? Whoops. Well,they are all Scandinavians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 At least Byron was giving us 20 goals when he got that kind of money. Aside from the controversial draft pick, this is Bergevin's worst move in the last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Peter Puck said: Whoops. Well,they are all Scandinavians. Democrats and Republicans are all Americans, but ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, Commandant said: Lets be honest, he tested the market. Yes, legally teams can't talk to free agents til tomorrow, but we all know tampering is happening. Anyone signing today knows exactly what will be offered tomorrow. I guess testing was the wrong word. I figured he'd be gone. His comments about remaining a Canadien seemed ambiguous. I took that as some level of dissatisfaction with the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, huzer said: I guess testing was the wrong word. I figured he'd be gone. His comments about remaining a Canadien seemed ambiguous. I took that as some level of dissatisfaction with the team. A lot of Habs reporters mentioned that Armia loves Montreal and he would ideally be staying, but he was also probably very aware this was his only year to really cash out. I hoped he would be back for $3 mill or less, but someone was gonna be dumb and give him a contract that started with a 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I think he is the key cog on whatever line he is put on. He is the guy that gets stuff done so others look good and he does have some hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.