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36 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

 

I don’t know about organizational depth…but in terms of the NHL level, as this article says, we’re in solid shape, although it is an interesting question who will be #3 in the event that one of Monty or Primeau goes down for any length of time. Dobes certainly doesn’t sound like a serious candidate. 

 

Hey, last time we had the #5 pick we chose a goalie…maybe just maybe - ?!? 🤪🤪🤪

Last time we had the #5 pick, we chose David Reinbacher...

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5 hours ago, JoeLassister said:

Last time we had the #5 pick, we chose David Reinbacher...

 

Ahahhahaha, I really should avoid posting before my morning coffee. As you were…

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8 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

I don’t know about organizational depth…but in terms of the NHL level, as this article says, we’re in solid shape, although it is an interesting question who will be #3 in the event that one of Monty or Primeau goes down for any length of time. Dobes certainly doesn’t sound like a serious candidate.

 

I think Dobes would be serviceable if needed for a short stint as an NHL backup.  But how much do you want your young goalie to just be sitting on the bench as a recall to cover for injury?  It's much more ideal to have a Louis Domingue-type option (he's signed with the Rangers for next year already, just giving an example) that can play once every five or six games if need be while allowing Dobes to get the bulk of the workload in Laval. 

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Hard not to like Harris's off-ice persona, could use more young adults like him.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/06/02/jordan-harris-bon-sur-la-glace-encore-meilleur-dans-la-vie

 

"Last winter, Jordan went to a school in the English Montreal School Board," he says.

"Three hundred students were queuing to ask for his autograph and pose with him. It was 11 a.m. I told Jordan that he didn't have to stay there to satisfy everyone. But he did. It continued until 2 p.m. Not only did he meet the requests of the young people, but he also took the time to talk to them."

Jean Béliveau and Guy Lafleur were proud to make them proud, as they always gave satisfaction to their fans. As it was for them, it's normal for Harris to interact with the fans

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1 hour ago, DON said:

Hard not to like Harris's off-ice persona, could use more young adults like him.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/06/02/jordan-harris-bon-sur-la-glace-encore-meilleur-dans-la-vie

 

"Last winter, Jordan went to a school in the English Montreal School Board," he says.

"Three hundred students were queuing to ask for his autograph and pose with him. It was 11 a.m. I told Jordan that he didn't have to stay there to satisfy everyone. But he did. It continued until 2 p.m. Not only did he meet the requests of the young people, but he also took the time to talk to them."

Jean Béliveau and Guy Lafleur were proud to make them proud, as they always gave satisfaction to their fans. As it was for them, it's normal for Harris to interact with the fans

 

I respect how well Harris conducts himself. He is also a gentleman on the ice and a solid defensive talent.

 

That being said, he is not as strong on his skates other smallish Ds were, like Francis Bouillon (for example).

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1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said:

 

I respect how well Harris conducts himself. He is also a gentleman on the ice and a solid defensive talent.

 

That being said, he is not as strong on his skates other smallish Ds were, like Francis Bouillon (for example).

 

And Bouillion handled the puck like a hand grenade.  Harris is much better at this and that is becoming more and more important in the game today.  A player like Bouillion who had trouble making a breakout pass and was always off the boards and out of the zone, wouldn't make the league today, not when you add in the lack of size. 

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3 hours ago, Commandant said:

 

And Bouillion handled the puck like a hand grenade.  Harris is much better at this and that is becoming more and more important in the game today.  A player like Bouillion who had trouble making a breakout pass and was always off the boards and out of the zone, wouldn't make the league today, not when you add in the lack of size. 

Ya but next to crank shaft and tuna, cube was an amazing nick name. So there's that.

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1 hour ago, BCHabnut said:

Ya but next to crank shaft and tuna, cube was an amazing nick name. So there's that.


i liked his “Frankie Boo” nick name best !

 

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13 minutes ago, DON said:

 

2023-24 Final Grades: Forwards – HabsWorld.net

 

Ratings seem about right.

Is Ylonen done with Habs?

Newhook scoring at a career high, 50+ point pace, and yet gets the same 6/10 as Gallagher? Personally, I think the scores have a bit too much personal bias. But then I didn't write the article. And I did still enjoy reading it.

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24 minutes ago, tomh009 said:

Newhook scoring at a career high, 50+ point pace, and yet gets the same 6/10 as Gallagher? Personally, I think the scores have a bit too much personal bias. But then I didn't write the article. And I did still enjoy reading it.

Newhook 15g

Gallagher 16g

 

So why not, Gallagher was finally healthy for a full year and he isnt quite dead yet (yes has lost 1/2 a step for sure but).

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12 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said:


i liked his “Frankie Boo” nick name best !

 

 

He should have been called Beef. (For Bouillon) but Cube was pretty good too.

 

When Harris first came up, I thought his smarts might elevate him into a long career, and that might yet happen, but he seems too limited to be much more than a bottom-pairing puck-mover.

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59 minutes ago, DON said:

Newhook 15g

Gallagher 16g

 

So why not, Gallagher was finally healthy for a full year and he isnt quite dead yet (yes has lost 1/2 a step for sure but).

0.62 points/game vs 0.40 points/game. And I won't even mention points/AAV.

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2 hours ago, tomh009 said:

Newhook scoring at a career high, 50+ point pace, and yet gets the same 6/10 as Gallagher? Personally, I think the scores have a bit too much personal bias. But then I didn't write the article. And I did still enjoy reading it.

Frankly, I don't think I'm going to bother reading anymore of the player ranking articles. This was better than the Dmen/goalie one from last month. But for the most part, the rankings and methodology doesn't make sense and there is no consistency in applying the rankings.
 

I Agree on a newhook. Hell, I'm not sure how Evans gets the same ratings as Gallagher, when you considersalary, expectations, role, and ice time.

 

Caufield made huge strides in his overall game, but a "9"??? Really??? So we factor in Caufield's shoulder injury, but not Newhook? Shouldn't we also consider linemates that Newhook had?

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1 hour ago, tomh009 said:

0.62 points/game vs 0.40 points/game. And I won't even mention points/AAV.

Newhook 166minutes PP time; 3.02/gm

Gallagher 117minutes PP time, 1.32/gm

 

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1 hour ago, DON said:

Newhook 166minutes PP time; 3.02/gm

Gallagher 117minutes PP time, 1.32/gm

 

For the first 75% of the season, being on the PP was probably detrimental to the stats. Let's face it, until Slafkovsky got paired with Suzuki and they got some chemistry going, our PP sucked. Still needs a lot of work, so I wouldn't consider anyone having an advantage on getting not PP time on a PP that clearly did not work. Yeah, part of that is on the players, but a lot of is on the plan and system.

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7 minutes ago, GHT120 said:

 

Well…you can still learn things of value, even so. E.g., those “behind the scenes” videos of the draft lent some insight into the Habs’ process, the personalities and relationships involved, and the collective decision to go with “safe” Reinbacher as opposed to Michkov. And wasn’t the infamous footage of Therrien berating Subban also something the Habs had agreed to release? 

 

I’m not saying I’ll watch it religiously either, but I wouldn’t rule out some useful bits being extracted from it.

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12 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

Harris is a young man of outstanding character, no doubt about it, certainly something the organization values. 

 

he will have a great career as a sports broadcaster, once his player career ends. If he wants to do it.

Not sure how great his NHL career will be.

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5 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said:

Not sure how great his NHL career will be.

 

It's hard to say, he has mobility, smarts and character. Certainly a good 3rd pairing guy. Obviously he would be much more effective if he was bigger and stronger. 

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Assessing The Depth: Right Defencemen – HabsWorld.net

 

" If they’re going to deploy Mailloux and Reinbacher (not to mention having Adam Engstrom and probably one of Lane Hutson or Jayden Struble), they will want to get a key veteran right-shot option that can make an impact.  They also should add two or three depth options on AHL contracts so there’s some work that needs to be done."

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