hab29RETIRED Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 4 hours ago, GHT120 said: Very fair question ... but her "management experience" is less than a year ... and it is in player development, not contracts, drafting/scouting or trade-related (which is not to say she may not have had input in those areas) ... she likely needs a bit more experience and perhaps to diversify into more mainstream GM roles ... but given a couple of more years she absolutely should be on every GM search list ... but if it was a recently retired NHL all-time great they likley would at least get consideration. Yzerman had to apprentice for 4 years before he got a shot. He also got experience managing teams for Hockey Canada before become a GM in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 5 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: Yzerman had to apprentice for 4 years before he got a shot. He also got experience managing teams for Hockey Canada before become a GM in the NHL. He got interviews in less than 4 years. You usuallya have to interview a few times before being offered your first GM job. I was saying Haley should be interviewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Salt Lake City, Houston, or Atlanta, possible landing spot for the Coyotes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 3 hours ago, DON said: Salt Lake City, Houston, or Atlanta, possible landing spot for the Coyotes? I think it will be SLC. Houston and Atlanta are likely expansion down the road 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1666138185687265281?s=20 Contract Status: Cal Petersen has 2 yrs @ $5M remaining Ivan Provorov has 2 yrs @ $6.75M remaining Columbus has no comparable 2-yr contracts ... so who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Lots of chatter about Carter Hart moving imminently. I'd put money on him coming here. What it would cost? I have no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 17 minutes ago, Helmethead said: Lots of chatter about Carter Hart moving imminently. I'd put money on him coming here. What it would cost? I have no clue. Can’t see it at all. Montembault had a great season and was really great for Canada. Oilers maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 32 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Can’t see it at all. Montembault had a great season and was really great for Canada. Oilers maybe? The pedigree is Careyesque. And we have a history with goalies of his ilk. He'd be leaving a toxic environment. Idk. It smells like something Hughes would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 He's had two good seasons (2019-2020 and 2022-2023) and two terrible ones in between. He might be better than Allen, but he might also be worse. The positives are that he's young and only signed for one more season but is that enough? I don't think I would do this, even assuming that they can move Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: ... Montembault had a great season and was really great for Canada ... One season doth not necessarily a solution make ... in any event, Allen isn't (IMO) in the mix when his contract is up after next season and I have as much confidence in Primeau as I do in my chances of winning the LottoMax tonight ... so the habs need some near-term help in goal. Also, Hart is younger and has had more NHL success than SM so makes sense to me to let them go head-to-head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, tomh009 said: He's had two good seasons (2019-2020 and 2022-2023) and two terrible ones in between. He might be better than Allen, but he might also be worse. The positives are that he's young and only signed for one more season but is that enough? I don't think I would do this, even assuming that they can move Allen. His 18/19 season wasn't bad either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, GHT120 said: His 18/19 season wasn't bad either. True. But the massive drop in between doesn't inspire confidence. Hughes may see things differently, of course. Montembeault is not a sure thing, either, but he has been improving his play (as measured by GSAx) every season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, tomh009 said: True. But the massive drop in between doesn't inspire confidence. Hughes may see things differently, of course. Montembeault is not a sure thing, either, but he has been improving his play (as measured by GSAx) every season. But last season was a RIDICULOUS one-season GSAx improvement by Montembeault ... not really part of a pattern of progression ... so I remain skeptic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 35 minutes ago, tomh009 said: True. But the massive drop in between doesn't inspire confidence. Hughes may see things differently, of course. Montembeault is not a sure thing, either, but he has been improving his play (as measured by GSAx) every season. Carey price had bad years at the same age. So did Patrick Roy who lost his starting job to Hayward in 88. So have other young goalies. Depending on trade price, Id absolutely love Hart ans Monty as 1a/1b. Many teams are going to the 1a/1b situation too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I would love to see Hart and Montembeault battle it out to be the starter. With Hart having a year left and being a RFA, it’s not really a high risk trade. The real question is what will cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: The real question is what will cost. At 24 Hart is not TOO far removed from the 'Dach' scenario of a young-ish player who has fallen out of favour with his original team. I think that's why a lot of Spider-senses are tingling regarding HuGo being a possible player in such a deal. Also, the Habs have an obvious need for a longer-term goalie fix, unless we want to bet the house on Monty. I like Monty, but wouldn't take that bet. On the other hand, Allen/Monty is an OK tandem that probably gives us another couple of years to find a longer-term answer. So there is no urgent need to pounce on Hart. The real trouble is that the Flyers are rebuilding, and so are we. They'll want picks, prospects. As a rebuilding team, we shouldn't be giving those up. That's why trades between two rebuilding teams are seldom logical fit. One thought is that WiFi is almost a prototypical 'Flyers' player (although whether Briere is prone to such thinking is another question). And we traded a similar player in Romy to get Dach. So maybe he could be a key component in a Hart-to-Habs trade. This is all just wild speculation, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, GHT120 said: One season doth not necessarily a solution make ... in any event, Allen isn't (IMO) in the mix when his contract is up after next season and I have as much confidence in Primeau as I do in my chances of winning the LottoMax tonight ... so the habs need some near-term help in goal. Also, Hart is younger and has had more NHL success than SM so makes sense to me to let them go head-to-head. Allen has two years left on a deal that doesn't start for a few more weeks. While I understand the logic in going after someone like Hart, I also understand that management might not want to move a player they just extended before his contract begins, removing any hope of moving him at the trade deadline. Those things aren't looked on too favourably by players and agents. Unless Allen's moved to a spot he really wants to go to, I think there would be some behind the scenes repercussions from moving him this early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, dlbalr said: Allen has two years left on a deal that doesn't start for a few more weeks. While I understand the logic in going after someone like Hart, I also understand that management might not want to move a player they just extended before his contract begins, removing any hope of moving him at the trade deadline. Those things aren't looked on too favourably by players and agents. Unless Allen's moved to a spot he really wants to go to, I think there would be some behind the scenes repercussions from moving him this early. Party pooper!! Why you gotta be a voice of reason?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 21 minutes ago, Helmethead said: Party pooper!! Why you gotta be a voice of reason?? I've been called both those things plenty of times before...and undoubtedly will plenty more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Around 0:20, after 2 annoying ads ... Pat Brisson advises Jets that PLD does not want to sign an extension, or a one year bridge, and would prefer to work on a trade ... no talk of destination(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Hes gonna get traded for a 2nd rounder, mike Hoffman and a ham sandwich. Any leverage Winnipeg had is being taken away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Commandant said: Hes gonna get traded for a 2nd rounder, mike Hoffman and a ham sandwich. Any leverage Winnipeg had is being taken away. Isn't he worth more than that to other teams as a rental player at the trade deadline? Or before the draft? Even if Dubois doesn't want to sign with an acquiring team, that team can still take him to arbitration and force a contract, taking him as a one-year rental. It's not without its risks but the centre market is terrible this year so I have to think there are teams that will view him as a better option than any UFA out there and pay a reasonably high price to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Commandant said: Hes gonna get traded for a 2nd rounder, mike Hoffman and a ham sandwich. I think we might need to pay more. At least give the Jets a Schwartz's smoked meat sandwich! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 hours ago, dlbalr said: Isn't he worth more than that to other teams as a rental player at the trade deadline? Or before the draft? Even if Dubois doesn't want to sign with an acquiring team, that team can still take him to arbitration and force a contract, taking him as a one-year rental. It's not without its risks but the centre market is terrible this year so I have to think there are teams that will view him as a better option than any UFA out there and pay a reasonably high price to do so. I thought the "ham sandwich" would have shown the sarcasm, my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 47 minutes ago, Commandant said: I thought the "ham sandwich" would have shown the sarcasm, my bad. Hey, ham sandwiches can be big ticket items in some places nowadays:https://nypost.com/2023/04/14/inflation-raises-price-of-ham-and-cheese-sandwich-in-nyc-to-29/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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