Lanes World Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 9 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I've compared him a few times to Chris Tanev, but I didn't think the injury history would go along with it 🤒 They showed a list of his injuries over the past 3 seasons…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 YIKES 😱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 Yeah, the reality is the fact they did surgery the same night is not a good sign. Means it was serious and needed immediate attention. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Horrific. Sounds like the kind of thing where he might need counselling as well as medical attention. For all that we've been going on about his being injury prone, this seems to have been one of those freak things that could befall any hockey player on some crazy night where the stars are misaligned. If so, it doesn't tell us anything about his durability as a player, any more than Heineman's getting hit by a car does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Horrific. Sounds like the kind of thing where he might need counselling as well as medical attention. For all that we've been going on about his being injury prone, this seems to have been one of those freak things that could befall any hockey player on some crazy night where the stars are misaligned. If so, it doesn't tell us anything about his durability as a player, any more than Heineman's getting hit by a car does. when I started seeing him and Matheson flopping around on the ice doing their best Savard impersonation, I started to worry about injuries. Guhle tripped on a crack in the ice and got injured. An accident and it really sucks bad for the Habs’ playoff chances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 30 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Horrific. Sounds like the kind of thing where he might need counselling as well as medical attention. For all that we've been going on about his being injury prone, this seems to have been one of those freak things that could befall any hockey player on some crazy night where the stars are misaligned. If so, it doesn't tell us anything about his durability as a player, any more than Heineman's getting hit by a car does. Exactly. If someone keeps injuring the same body part, like if his shoulder was always the issue, I'm willing to buy into injury prone narratives. If someone has a freak accident that could happen to anyone and is a totally new injury they have never had before, yeah, I'm not buying the narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Injury-prone Guhle is. Pretty hard to argue against that; 1st season missed 38 games 2nd season missed 12 games 3rd season will miss 38 games Just hope he gets back to 100% for the fall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterface Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 10 minutes ago, DON said: Injury-prone Guhle is. Pretty hard to argue against that; 1st season missed 38 games 2nd season missed 12 games 3rd season will miss 38 games Just hope he gets back to 100% for the fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 9 minutes ago, DON said: Injury-prone Guhle is. Pretty hard to argue against that; 1st season missed 38 games 2nd season missed 12 games 3rd season will miss 38 games Just hope he gets back to 100% for the fall. Injury prone means that he will continue to get injuries. I don't see how we can say that this injury is part of a recurring pattern when its a freak accident and a different body part. Some People said, don't re-sign Markov cause he's injury prone after his knee issues (and that was the same body part) and then he played every game (except when we rested him cause we clinched our spot) for like 3-4 years after re-signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 17 minutes ago, DON said: Injury-prone Guhle is. Pretty hard to argue against that; 1st season missed 38 games 2nd season missed 12 games 3rd season will miss 38 games Just hope he gets back to 100% for the fall. yes, let’s hope for the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 23 minutes ago, DON said: Injury-prone Guhle is. Pretty hard to argue against that; 1st season missed 38 games 2nd season missed 12 games 3rd season will miss 38 games Just hope he gets back to 100% for the fall. I would say unlucky rather than injury-prone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Commandant said: Injury prone means that he will continue to get injuries. I don't see how we can say that this injury is part of a recurring pattern when its a freak accident and a different body part. Some People said, don't re-sign Markov cause he's injury prone after his knee issues (and that was the same body part) and then he played every game (except when we rested him cause we clinched our spot) for like 3-4 years after re-signing. In this case no - it was like a Malarchuk/savage freak injury. But as someone with auto- immune issues and who has: - torn miniscus in both knees - torn rotator cuffs and labrum in both shoulders - four tenomoties in both elbows - bruising that takes a lot longer to heal i would say that you have to look at other heath factors that can cause some player to continuously get injured, or have muscular- skeletal related injuries more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 15 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: In this case no - it was like a Malarchuk/savage freak injury. But as someone with auto- immune issues and who has: - torn miniscus in both knees - torn rotator cuffs and labrum in both shoulders - four tenomoties in both elbows - bruising that takes a lot longer to heal i would say that you have to look at other heath factors that can cause some player to continuously get injured, or have muscular- skeletal related injuries more often. Of course you have to look at those. There has been no suggestion that Guhle has such an issue though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Simply is more reckless perhaps and just dosent have the situation awareness (self preservation) of his captain, it 'seems' to me. Can call it bad luck due to crack in ice, but Nick has played on same ice for 400+games with no issue, while Guhle has been getting rocked since start of his NHL career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, DON said: Simply is more reckless perhaps and just dosent have the situation awareness (self preservation) of his captain, it 'seems' to me. Can call it bad luck due to crack in ice, but Nick has played on same ice for 400+games with no issue, while Guhle has been getting rocked since start of his NHL career. None of his other injuries were from hitting a rut in the ice though. And hitting a rut can happen to anyone, its a complete freak injury that doesn't have to do with situational awareness or being reckless. Its just silliness to stick to this point on this injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 29 minutes ago, DON said: Simply is more reckless perhaps and just dosent have the situation awareness (self preservation) of his captain, it 'seems' to me. Can call it bad luck due to crack in ice, but Nick has played on same ice for 400+games with no issue, while Guhle has been getting rocked since start of his NHL career. Guhle plays more physical than the captain and he had been favouring that type of play since moving to LD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 1/30/2025 at 6:27 PM, Commandant said: None of his other injuries were from hitting a rut in the ice though. And hitting a rut can happen to anyone, its a complete freak injury that doesn't have to do with situational awareness or being reckless. Its just silliness to stick to this point on this injury. It’s hard to defend the point that Guhle is a bandaid. Favourite player- No Solid top 4 Dman- Yes injured a lot- Yes would I trade him- Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 45 minutes ago, Lanes World said: It’s hard to defend the point that Guhle is a bandaid. Favourite player- No Solid top 4 Dman- Yes injured a lot- Yes would I trade him- Yes I still think this is just a fluke thing with this injury.... but.... Let's assume for a second that you are right and he's injury prone, why would any team trading for him pay more than pennies on the dollar for an injury prone player. Do you think you, random fan with 100 posts on this message board figured out something that NHL GMs didn't? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 32 minutes ago, Commandant said: I still think this is just a fluke thing with this injury.... but.... Let's assume for a second that you are right and he's injury prone, why would any team trading for him pay more than pennies on the dollar for an injury prone player. Do you think you, random fan with 100 posts on this message board figured out something that NHL GMs didn't? 🤫 I’m only saying IF an offer came to me( arm chair gm), Guhle is not an untouchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 14 minutes ago, Lanes World said: 🤫 I’m only saying IF an offer came to me( arm chair gm), Guhle is not an untouchable. Who is an untouchable? Any player on this roster coild be traded if another team offered an overpayment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 For sure, but I would trade Guhle in a lateral move. Even Guhle for a forward…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, Lanes World said: For sure, but I would trade Guhle in a lateral move. Even Guhle for a forward…. I don't think its wise to move our best defensive defenceman for a forward considering that we have no one of his profile coming through the system at LD. We have left Ds, but none who project as shutdown defenders to play against opponents top lines and we have a bunch of forwards ready to make the team in Demidov, Hage, Beck, Roy, Kapanen, on the way soon. Again, we all said Markov was injury prone and then we got 4 years out of him not missing a game (except the ones when we sat him cause playoff spots were clinched). And that was worse cause it was the same injury repeated, where Guhle is a freak thing of hitting a rut in the ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 hours ago, Lanes World said: For sure, but I would trade Guhle in a lateral move. Even Guhle for a forward…. He is the only solid LH defensive d-man they got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Great player…. Very injury prone. Is that a trade-able offence, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 14 minutes ago, Lanes World said: Great player…. Very injury prone. Is that a trade-able offence, no. Great player in a WWE-ish sense (i.e., Steve Lombardi was a superstar) ... but being injury-prone is not a "trade-able offence" ... but it is reason for HuGo et al to assess whether he fits in mid/long-term plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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