illWill Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Most Habs fans right now: To Montreal: Anybody To Anywhere: Whoever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 18 minutes ago, illWill said: Most Habs fans right now: To Montreal: Anybody To Anywhere: Whoever He gave you that when he acquired Kevin Lowe's son for Ulf Samuelsson's son. Beggars can't be choosers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 43 minutes ago, Neech said: It's funny that people want Kane for a bargain now that he's gotten hot. The time to get him for a bargain was when his career was in a tailspin. Why would Buffalo trade him now? That's always the way, isn't it? Folks on here (including me) have talked about trading Gallagher this season; but any previous year, when Gally was going like gangbusters, that would have been a rare proposal indeed. When guys like Jeff Carter and Phil Kessel were on the block, during the low ebbs of their careers, many fans were adamant that the Habs had to STAY AWAY from these head-cases, 'problem players,' bums, etc.. But either of those guys would have been great additions. This is supposed to be why the GMs make the big bucks - to see through the exigencies of the moment and identify a player's real value as an asset. Not that they are terribly great at that either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: That's always the way, isn't it? Folks on here (including me) have talked about trading Gallagher this season; but any previous year, when Gally was going like gangbusters, that would have been a rare proposal indeed. When guys like Jeff Carter and Phil Kessel were on the block, during the low ebbs of their careers, many fans were adamant that the Habs had to STAY AWAY from these head-cases, 'problem players,' bums, etc.. But either of those guys would have been great additions. This is supposed to be why the GMs make the big bucks - to see through the exigencies of the moment and identify a player's real value as an asset. Not that they are terribly great at that either. Jeepers, sounds pretty simple, so how hard could it be eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I am so anxious for a trade that tried something even if I am not good at trade proposals: but I what if we could swap Beaulieu for Detroit's Bredan Smith. Maybe a change in scenery would benefit Smith with the Canadians. On a multi-player deal with drafts and some of the Canadians prospects we may be able to pry away Anthony Mantha from Detroit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 The problem there is that Smith is a pending UFA while Beaulieu still has two years of team control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, dlbalr said: The problem there is that Smith is a pending UFA while Beaulieu still has two years of team control. Don't know Smith...would he be upgrade on Beaulieu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, DON said: Don't know Smith...would he be upgrade on Beaulieu? In some ways he would be but in others he wouldn't. Smith is one of those players who has the skills to be a solid player but often underwhelms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davehab Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 This is just me thinking out loud but I could see a deal for Duchene that would involve both Gallagher and Beaulieu. I dont think that would be out of the question...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGC21 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 33 minutes ago, Davehab said: This is just me thinking out loud but I could see a deal for Duchene that would involve both Gallagher and Beaulieu. I dont think that would be out of the question...... I agree. My guess is MB has at least offered Gallagher, Beaulieu, Scherbak and a combination of picks: 1st & 2nd round - for Duchene. Sakic is going to swing for a homerun here and most likely wait until the summer before trading him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 How much would it take to do a Tavares trade and sign I wonder? Is Pacioretty + Galchenyuk too much or not enough? Pacioretty is great, don't get me wrong. But if he doesn't do it in the playoffs, then I don't want him. Galchenyuk? Losing faith in his progression. Not sure if he's ever going to put it together. If we could somehow make this trade AND resign Radulov and a Russian buddy (Dadonov or Shipachev) If we actually signed both we could have a top 6 of Dadonov - Tavares - Gallagher Lehkonen - Shipachev - Radulov I know it's only a day removed, and I dislike neither Pacioretty or Chuck, but they aren't getting it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott462 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 55 minutes ago, Meller93 said: How much would it take to do a Tavares trade and sign I wonder? Is Pacioretty + Galchenyuk too much or not enough? Pacioretty is great, don't get me wrong. But if he doesn't do it in the playoffs, then I don't want him. Galchenyuk? Losing faith in his progression. Not sure if he's ever going to put it together. If we could somehow make this trade AND resign Radulov and a Russian buddy (Dadonov or Shipachev) If we actually signed both we could have a top 6 of Dadonov - Tavares - Gallagher Lehkonen - Shipachev - Radulov I know it's only a day removed, and I dislike neither Pacioretty or Chuck, but they aren't getting it done. Well we do know the Long Island franchise is in a bit of trouble. They still don't know where their barn is going to end up, lost a lot of JT's friends and linemates for almost nothing in a couple cases. JT is not getting any younger. All that said I believe a trade would have to include a top prospect with either Patches or Chuck ala Sergachev. I wouldn't do both though throw in Beaulieu or another prospect to get it done if you have too. I think the Habs can offer the Islanders more than most clubs when it comes to a trade for John Tavares. He certainly would solve our one major issue down the middle and has been known as a break a game open kind of player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Meller93 said: How much would it take to do a Tavares trade and sign I wonder? Is Pacioretty + Galchenyuk too much or not enough? Pacioretty is great, don't get me wrong. But if he doesn't do it in the playoffs, then I don't want him. Galchenyuk? Losing faith in his progression. Not sure if he's ever going to put it together. If we could somehow make this trade AND resign Radulov and a Russian buddy (Dadonov or Shipachev) If we actually signed both we could have a top 6 of Dadonov - Tavares - Gallagher Lehkonen - Shipachev - Radulov I know it's only a day removed, and I dislike neither Pacioretty or Chuck, but they aren't getting it done. And are Hawks peddling Toews & Kane, because they each only had 1g and got swept by big underdog? Cant say Pacioretty didn't have another super reg season...so you are simply referring to the 6 games in one series as the main reason to trade a perennial 30+ goal scorer and 23yr old with 200+points under his belt...you normally have smart posts, but this isn't one of those Meller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, DON said: And are Hawks peddling Toews & Kane, because they each only had 1g and got swept by big underdog? Cant say Pacioretty didn't have another super reg season...so you are simply referring to the 6 games in one series as the main reason to trade a perennial 30+ goal scorer and 23yr old with 200+points under his belt...you normally have smart posts, but this isn't one of those Meller. Pacioretty has 19 points in 38 playoff games. This is far from a one year assessment. It's not even simply the point totals, it's they actual compete level. Aside from a few breakaways he would go unnoticeable for huge periods of time. Sure he had around 40 shots, but he made Lunqvist look awfully good. He would have buried a few proper chances. As for Galchenyuk, you might see he's listed as one of my favorite habs. But like Pacioretty, it's his compete level I haven't liked. In his first few years, Galchenyuk had this tenacity and compete, it's largely disappeared. Im not talking about giving these people up for squat. I'm talking about trading them for the prototypical 1st line center who's only 26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Further point, Toews and Kane have both won Conn Smythes haven't they? Proven they can literally be THE BEST playoff players. They also already have 3 cups each. Bringing them up as a comparison is a total non-sequitur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Meller93 said: Further point, Toews and Kane have both won Conn Smythes haven't they? Proven they can literally be THE BEST playoff players. They also already have 3 cups each. Bringing them up as a comparison is a total non-sequitur. Don sounds a lot like the kool-aid drinking leafs fans from the 80's. to him one bad playoffs from guys who won three cups is the same as guys who have done squat in the playoffs - and even though I think they've done squat, I wouldn't trade maxpac or galchenyuk. The issue is more with the architect of the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: Don sounds a lot like the kool-aid drinking leafs fans from the 80's. to him one bad playoffs from guys who won three cups is the same as guys who have done squat in the playoffs - and even though I think they've done squat, I wouldn't trade maxpac or galchenyuk. The issue is more with the architect of the lineup. I agree. The question is whether we can add a legit #1 C without giving up huge elements like that. What is clear is that we CANNOT go into next season with the joke of a FW configuration we have now; significant changes are in order. The problem at this point is that I have zero confidence in Zoot Suit's competence to make them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Meller93 said: Further point, Toews and Kane have both won Conn Smythes haven't they? Proven they can literally be THE BEST playoff players. They also already have 3 cups each. Bringing them up as a comparison is a total non-sequitur. No kidding. Those guys have nothing left to prove. They're the most successful players of this generation along with Crosby, Doughty, and Patrice Bergeron. This is what I mean when I talk about "impending Leafdom." Someone here, either CC or MoLG first pointed out that it's been so long for this franchise that we think guys like Max and Plekanec are real deal stars instead of great players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehjay Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Anyone think Washington would trade 3 1st and their 2 2nd + Sherbak for Backstrom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, ehjay said: Anyone think Washington would trade 3 1st and their 2 2nd + Sherbak for Backstrom? Scherbak has very little value. Washington is not gonna put Eller in their top six. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehjay Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: Scherbak has very little value. Washington is not gonna put Eller in their top six. I think MB should look to take Backstrom off Caps... I'm not too sure how many picks with prospects it would take but I would try Real hard if i was in his chair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Just now, ehjay said: I think MB should look to take Backstrom off Caps... I'm not too sure how many picks with prospects it would take but I would try Real hard if i was in his chair I don't see the Caps giving away their number 1 centre. They are a cup contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I think we should go to new Jersey and get Kovalchuck. I don't know who we give up but can you imagine kovy/chucky/rads. The russian rockets. I love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehjay Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, habs rule said: I think we should go to new Jersey and get Kovalchuck. I don't know who we give up but can you imagine kovy/chucky/rads. The russian rockets. I love it. Kovalchuck would more realistic and less NHL (edit) come to think of it didn't the Goat try to get 1st pick from Atl a waays back for him ? Edited April 24, 2017 by ehjay add to post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 55 minutes ago, ehjay said: I think MB should look to take Backstrom off Caps... I'm not too sure how many picks with prospects it would take but I would try Real hard if i was in his chair Or ask for Crosby or Malkin or Toews or McDavid...bout same odds..which is Zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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