Habsfan89 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 He has 2 years left on his contract at 5.5mil. If he decides to play next year do we take a chance on him? Or do we leave him unprotected and work out a deal that Seattle takes him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) LITR him like Kutcherov and keep him off the cap it doesn’t cost much to do that , and he could be more valuable to the Habs than anything they get in a trade Edited July 8, 2021 by alfredoh2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: LITR him like Kutcherov and keep him off the cap it doesn’t cost much to do that , and he could be more valuable to the Habs than anything they get in a trade And if he wants to play next year? LTIR isn't an option then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 They could save 3.7 in cap space by buying him out. I'm just saying, if no one wants to take a flyer on him, maybe that's worth considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Expose him to Seattle, and if he doesn't get claimed, hope that he can rehabilitate a little value next year. Untradeable right now and a liability on a good team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 28 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: They could save 3.7 in cap space by buying him out. I'm just saying, if no one wants to take a flyer on him, maybe that's worth considering. But a player has to be healthy to be bought out. That's a little-known rule. Having been gone for all of the last three months with something that qualified him for LTIR, I don't think Drouin is magically going to be ruled healthy in the next three weeks when the buyout window closes. This isn't a physical injury with a defined timeline, it's more complex than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said: LITR him like Kutcherov and keep him off the cap it doesn’t cost much to do that , and he could be more valuable to the Habs than anything they get in a trade 1 hour ago, dlbalr said: And if he wants to play next year? LTIR isn't an option then. Or, even if he doesn't want to play, if there is no medical reason he can't play then no technically not eligible for LTIR ... although assuming it his is not physical injury/conditiopn it could be hard to contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 IMO the key in the whole process is something we won't know unless Drouin chooses to share ... why was he out? From that point, is he medically able to play next season? ... if he can, does he want to play for the Habs? Unless Drouin asks for a trade I wonder if Bergevin would move the player that he gave up for Sergachev ... that really shouldn't matter ("do what's best for the club") but human nature is such that it might well. This is a little more complicated than a normal roster decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, Neech said: Expose him to Seattle, and if he doesn't get claimed, hope that he can rehabilitate a little value next year. Untradeable right now and a liability on a good team. I agree with most of that. I think he could be a key contributor to a good team, but its not happening in Montreal cause he clearly needs a quieter market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I think the best think for Drouin is to get out of MTL. He clearly can't handle the pressure. I would leave him unprotected. If Seattle doesn't take him, play him next year and put him in the best situations to shine. ONce he shows that he seems to be back, they you can trade him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, dlbalr said: And if he wants to play next year? LTIR isn't an option then. If he wants to play, then he plays with Suzuki and Caufield. Toffoli on Danault’s line with Gally and Anderson on the power forward line with KK and Armia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: If he wants to play, then he plays with Suzuki and Caufield. Toffoli on Danault’s line with Gally and Anderson on the power forward line with KK and Armia I’d play Anderson with Caufield and Suzuki. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, dlbalr said: But a player has to be healthy to be bought out. That's a little-known rule. Having been gone for all of the last three months with something that qualified him for LTIR, I don't think Drouin is magically going to be ruled healthy in the next three weeks when the buyout window closes. This isn't a physical injury with a defined timeline, it's more complex than that. Thanks for the info, I hadn’t known that! But is it definitively stated in the rule that mental illness is not an injury? Could he be placed on LTIR, for example? If so, then why not a buyout? It might be interesting legal question, whether whatever ails him can be considered an “injury.” For example, if he is suffering from anxiety attacks brought on by stress, in many workplaces that would qualify him for sick leave. Maybe it can be considered a workplace “injury.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Trade him to the Blues for Taraseko contingent on a medical clearness for VT and salary retention by the Blues to match salary. One problem for another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 39 minutes ago, PMAC said: Trade him to the Blues for Taraseko contingent on a medical clearness for VT and salary retention by the Blues to match salary. One problem for another. What would we have to add to the deal for the Blues to both receive the worse player and retain salary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, Neech said: What would we have to add to the deal for the Blues to both receive the worse player and retain salary? A kid by the name of Caufield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Offer Seattle something to make sure they claim Drouin. Maybe offer to trade our 2nd rd pick for their 4th if they help us out. He has to go, and that would be the best case scenario for us IMO because he has such a low trade value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Commandant said: ..but its not happening in Montreal cause he clearly needs a quieter market. What is the issue he is dealing with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 7 hours ago, DON said: What is the issue he is dealing with? We are all speculating. It could certainly be media pressure, but we really don't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 10 hours ago, Neech said: What would we have to add to the deal for the Blues to both receive the worse player and retain salary? I wonder if Blues would take a chance on Drouin to replace Tarasenko 🤔 To blues Drouin + Poehling + Kulak + 1st To habs Tarasenko Wonder if that would work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I kind of expect Drouin to remain on the LTIR until his contract expires. I don’t think we will see him again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Habsfan89 said: I wonder if Blues would take a chance on Drouin to replace Tarasenko 🤔 To blues Drouin + Poehling + Kulak + 1st To habs Tarasenko Wonder if that would work? A7th D, a failed 1st rounder, the second 1st round pick on a year where it is a crapshoot to pick and a player with serious personal issues ? I’ll make that trade in a second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 50 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: I kind of expect Drouin to remain on the LTIR until his contract expires. I don’t think we will see him again I am hopeful, I tend to root for lost causes and I hope he comes back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 12 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Thanks for the info, I hadn’t known that! But is it definitively stated in the rule that mental illness is not an injury? Could he be placed on LTIR, for example? If so, then why not a buyout? It might be interesting legal question, whether whatever ails him can be considered an “injury.” For example, if he is suffering from anxiety attacks brought on by stress, in many workplaces that would qualify him for sick leave. Maybe it can be considered a workplace “injury.” He can go on LTIR. He was put on LTIR this season. Its two different issues. You can't buy him out now, cause clearly right now, he's not healthy. Can he be LTIR'd again in October? Who knows where his health will be at that point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 11 hours ago, Neech said: What would we have to add to the deal for the Blues to both receive the worse player and retain salary? Drouin plus our first round pick in 2021. I'd do that in a second. And I wouldn't even ask for retained salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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