Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 PLD has only 5 goals and 7 assists so far for the Kings, maybe Hughes was smart not to sell the farm to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: PLD has only 5 goals and 7 assists so far for the Kings, maybe Hughes was smart not to sell the farm to get him. Or maybe he is pining for the Bell Centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: PLD has only 5 goals and 7 assists so far for the Kings, maybe Hughes was smart not to sell the farm to get him. Could be an outlier season similar to Anderson? Or at least I hope in Anderson’s case it is indeed an outlier season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Could be an outlier season similar to Anderson? Or at least I hope in Anderson’s case it is indeed an outlier season Kings will make the playoffs and having Danault-Kopitar-Dubois could be tough to match at centre, or so i saw noted by some writer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Could be an outlier season similar to Anderson? Or at least I hope in Anderson’s case it is indeed an outlier season Could be an outlier season, still a long ways to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 It sure looks like Carolina is gearing up to make a goalie move, they've waived Antti Raanta. Their only other NHL-contracted goalie is Yaniv Perets, the first-year pro who's in the ECHL. Hypothetically, an Allen to Carolina for a pick and Mrazek (assuming he clears waivers) could make sense as the Habs could then stash Raanta in Laval, giving them some insurance behind Primeau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyrealist Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: PLD has only 5 goals and 7 assists so far for the Kings, maybe Hughes was smart not to sell the farm to get him. He was given an excellent opportunity there and obv will get more chances with the length of his contract. The plan was and season began with him at 2C (playing with Moore and Fiala) and Danault was slotting in at 3C but the underperformance of PLD combined with the excellent play of Danault got Danault promoted to play with Moore, Fiala line they have become the second line and one of most consistent in league and PLD plays third in a role with lower expectations, PLD was also off the PP for a while but is back on PP2, but he is also playing under 15 min/game a lot of the time in past month. I say all of this b/c imo he was given excellent opportunity and didn’t seize it, continues to struggle offensively but is strong enough overall to centre a decent shit down third line that will indeed make the Kings a very rough out. They are deep and good and the questions about goaltending seem to have been answered so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 54 minutes ago, dlbalr said: It sure looks like Carolina is gearing up to make a goalie move, they've waived Antti Raanta. Their only other NHL-contracted goalie is Yaniv Perets, the first-year pro who's in the ECHL. Hypothetically, an Allen to Carolina for a pick and Mrazek (assuming he clears waivers) could make sense as the Habs could then stash Raanta in Laval, giving them some insurance behind Primeau. I like the idea ... solid veteran in Laval ... added roster spot for a skater. Hurricanes play tomorrow, so one assumes that whatever happens is done today. If Raanta clears and they had to play/dress him tomorrow would that impact his waiver status if they then traded him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 54 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Hurricanes play tomorrow, so one assumes that whatever happens is done today. If Raanta clears and they had to play/dress him tomorrow would that impact his waiver status if they then traded him? If he plays tomorrow (and it sounds like Perets is coming up so he probably wouldn't), all it would do is knock one game off the ten needed before he'd need to clear waivers. He could clear, play Sunday, and still be waiver-exempt. This feels like a Monday move to me. They get through Sunday with Perets as the backup, then they're off until Tuesday. Make the move Monday (saving a bit of cash instead of doing it Sunday) and whoever they get is available for Tuesday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 hours ago, dlbalr said: If he plays tomorrow (and it sounds like Perets is coming up so he probably wouldn't), all it would do is knock one game off the ten needed before he'd need to clear waivers. He could clear, play Sunday, and still be waiver-exempt. This feels like a Monday move to me. They get through Sunday with Perets as the backup, then they're off until Tuesday. Make the move Monday (saving a bit of cash instead of doing it Sunday) and whoever they get is available for Tuesday night. I realize the Habs may not be their trading partner here but if they were, I’m having a really hard time deciding which goalie between Allen and Primeau I hope is dealt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 To resolve the 3-goalie logjam I would not even expect much in return for Allen ... Raanta would provide a veteran in Laval to mentor Dobes and provide support to the Rocket, as well as an emergency goalie for the Habsns will not be their trade partner ... but I fear the Canadiens will not be the team providing the 'Canes new goalie ... but that doesn't mean they might not be able to get involved to add Antti for Laval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I don't expect much of a return for Allen either. There are cheaper options for teams salary wise. On another note I just noticed after a hot start that KK has cooled off considerably. He has 15 points in 31 games after being a point a game for the first 12 games so just 3 points in his last 18 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: I don't expect much of a return for Allen either. There are cheaper options for teams salary wise. On another note I just noticed after a hot start that KK has cooled off considerably. He has 15 points in 31 games after being a point a game for the first 12 games so just 3 points in his last 18 games. F KK Those 3 letters speak volumes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I think DJ Smith gets fired this week, Ottawa has to do something. They have way too much talent to be where they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 12 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: I don't expect much of a return for Allen either. There are cheaper options for teams salary wise. On another note I just noticed after a hot start that KK has cooled off considerably. He has 15 points in 31 games after being a point a game for the first 12 games so just 3 points in his last 18 games. I noticed the same thing and was very glad to see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: I think DJ Smith gets fired this week, Ottawa has to do something. They have way too much talent to be where they are. It sure feels like something has to give there, doesn't it? The challenge is that they don't have a GM right now and aren't likely to do anything on that front until the offseason. That means they can basically only hire an interim option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 and they do not really have a better alternative in their organization. I think they will ride the storm and will be happy with a high draft pick that they may use to improve their NHL roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: and they do not really have a better alternative in their organization. I think they will ride the storm and will be happy with a high draft pick that they may use to improve their NHL roster. They have Jacques Martin as a consultant now while assistants Jack Capuano and Davis Payne have NHL head coaching experience. In terms of internal options, I'd suggest they have more options than a lot of teams do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) I doubt Martin will come out of retirement (adding) to coach behind the bench. I do not think Capuano's coaching record (Left) is much of an improvement over Smith (Right) on a rebuilding team. Four quarters for the Dollar: Payne doesn't seem like a big improvement either: Edited December 18, 2023 by alfredoh2009 (adding) to coach behind the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 The Wild going with Gustavsson tonight against the Pens in what could probably be the last game of M-A Fleury in Pittsburgh. I know the NHL is a business, but geez... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 And Jacques Martin it is. He's Ottawa's new interim head coach with Smith (and Payne) being let go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, dlbalr said: And Jacques Martin it is. He's Ottawa's new interim head coach with Smith (and Payne) being let go. Good choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, dlbalr said: And Jacques Martin it is. He's Ottawa's new interim head coach with Smith (and Payne) being let go. I'll be dammed! #Sens fire D.J. Smith and name Jacques Martin as the interim head coach. Daniel Alfredsson joins on the bench as an assistant coach. I checked the year and it'll soon be 2024, not 2004 like I maybe thought after seeing this. — Brennan Klak (@nhlupdate) December 18, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said: I doubt Martin will come out of retirement (adding) to coach behind the bench. I doubt he was actually hired as a consultant, or at least JUST as a consultant ... when he was hired, I expect he agreed to take over if and when Staios deemed it necessary. 8 minutes ago, dlbalr said: And Jacques Martin it is. He's Ottawa's new interim head coach with Smith (and Payne) being let go. Wonder which of Martin's buddies is brought on board as an assistant to replace Payne? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I’m curious how Martin handles the young team. He has to be in his mid 70s by now. Undoubtedly only for the remainder of the season only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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