2023-24 NHL discussion thread

[Commandant]

Yeah the risk is the cap space and what else you could use it on more than the picks. 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

[Prime Minister Koivu]

This guy deserves the award 

 

 

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

2 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

This guy deserves the award 

 

 

 

100%. He did a superb job

[Commandant]

Team went on a 1025 PDO bender this year.  Can they repeat it?

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

10 hours ago, Commandant said:

Team went on a 1025 PDO bender this year.  Can they repeat it?

 

Such a good question.

 

I predicted that they’d be a playoff team this year, because I thought their core was elite and that management had surrounded it with adequate depth and support. But it’s worth remembering that Rutherford himself, in October, said that “everything would have to go right” for them to make the dance. They stayed mostly injury-free and got career seasons from Boeser, Hughes, Joshua, and Hronek. And they all bought in to Tocchet’s system, with enthusiasm. 

 

I’m no advanced stats guru, but the team I saw played a very sound defensive structure. I think that will keep them competitive even if there is some regression. Management definitely wants to add an impact W (Jake Guentzel is the obvious candidate), which would help.

 

On the other hand, there is a realistic chance they can’t get Hronek signed to a long-term deal (he reportedly wants $8 mil!) and they have a ton of UFAs. 

 

And what about Boeser? What is the longer-term impact of blood clots? I have no idea. But if he is compromised, then a team already weak at W gets even worse.

 

So next year’s Canucks will have the same core but the supporting cast will likely look very different.

 

 

[GHT120]

Around the 14:50 mark ... Freidman seems to be expecting KK to be bought out
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[Prime Minister Koivu]

Pettersson, “It will be nice to get a break from everything,"
"It's been a very noisy season in terms of the contract and how shit I've been the last few months."
#Canucks 
 

2 hours ago, GHT120 said:

Around the 14:50 mark ... Freidman seems to be expecting KK to be bought out
Sportsnet.ca - 32 Thoughts: The Podcast

 

That would be hilarious and I wonder if he would go home and play in a Euro league 

[Commandant]

Hes still young.  Someone will give him a cheap one year deal ala Drouin.

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

12 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Pettersson, “It will be nice to get a break from everything,"
"It's been a very noisy season in terms of the contract and how shit I've been the last few months."
#Canucks 
 

That would be hilarious and I wonder if he would go home and play in a Euro league 

 

Pettersson claims to have had a knee injury that got progressively worse and needs rest. 

 

Many in Van asking why he wasn’t rested down the stretch.

 

7 hours ago, Commandant said:

Hes still young.  Someone will give him a cheap one year deal ala Drouin.

 

I can see him getting more than one year, frankly. Maybe two. A big C with playoff experience and high pedigree - some team will think “hmmmmm.” Heck, even Van might take a flyer on him; they need FWs.

[Commandant]

I think KK will want one year though.

 

His best bet is to go to a team that needs a 2nd/3rd line C, get icetime, put up points and then look for a bigger deal in the summer of 2025.

 

I dont think teams will offer him significant money this summer.

[Prime Minister Koivu]

This has already been discussed but I would offer KK a very low one year contract. 
 

IF HuGo fail to get that top line forward then I would try KK on Dach’s wing along with Newhook 

 

Its very unlikely to happen but low risk

[Prime Minister Koivu]

From Friedman:

 

Well, it is official. 

 

Hurricanes announce Don Waddell is stepping down. 

 

Eric Tulsky is interim GM

 

Search on for full-time 

 

If I was a canes fan I would want him gone too. 
 

Perhaps this opens the door to a Necas deal (although there seems to be a very troublesome father attached). 

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

This has already been discussed but I would offer KK a very low one year contract. 
 

IF HuGo fail to get that top line forward then I would try KK on Dach’s wing along with Newhook 

 

Its very unlikely to happen but low risk

 

If he can be a W then I wouldn't object either, but like most I do not believe KK would want to come back here. Too hard on the ego, too much water under the bridge and "a lot of other stuff too," as birthday boy Bob Dylan sings.

[tomh009]

13 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Hurricanes announce Don Waddell is stepping down. Eric Tulsky is interim GM. Search on for full-time 

 

If I was a canes fan I would want him gone too.

If I were Canes fan I'd want Dundon gone ....

[DON]

1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

... I would offer KK a very low one year contract. 

BOOoooo!

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

2 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

This has already been discussed but I would offer KK a very low one year contract. 
 

IF HuGo fail to get that top line forward then I would try KK on Dach’s wing along with Newhook 

 

Its very unlikely to happen but low risk

 Less chance than very unlikely, I would say almost zero chance. 

 

I wonder what's really going on in Carolina with Waddell leaving??

[dlbalr]

21 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

I wonder what's really going on in Carolina with Waddell leaving??

 

Waddell was on an expiring contract.  He might have had the nerve to ask for a raise after being one of the more underpaid executives over the last decade.  As we know with Dundon, he fully operates under the 'everyone is replaceable' mindset when it comes to his off-ice personnel.

[Prime Minister Koivu]

33 minutes ago, dlbalr said:

 

Waddell was on an expiring contract.  He might have had the nerve to ask for a raise after being one of the more underpaid executives over the last decade.  As we know with Dundon, he fully operates under the 'everyone is replaceable' mindset when it comes to his off-ice personnel.

Waddell found out that Bergevin was in the running for the Columbus GM job. so he quit and with one more act of revenge, Waddell is going to take that GM position away from Bergevin. 
 

 

 

[Fanpuck33]

6 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Waddell found out that Bergevin was in the running for the Columbus GM job. so he quit and with one more act of revenge, Waddell is going to take that GM position away from Bergevin. 

 

Lol. That's great!

 

My first thought when the Canes allowed Waddell to look elsewhere was that they asked him to remain as President, but give up the GM job in favor of Tulsky.  But Tulsky only being named interim GM seems to quash that theory.

 

I wonder exactly what position(s) he interviewed for in Columbus.  Does being GM mean enough to him to work under JD?  Does he want both titles like he usually has had?  Or is he ready to just be a President and only replace JD, with the abilto handpick a GM?

[Commandant]

Carolina typically pays coaches and execs much less than people with similar job titles on the other 31 teams.  

 

With Brindamour it took forever but dundon finally gave him a fair contract recently.

 

Word was he wouldnt do it for Waddell.  So look for him to take another GM job (im betting columbus yes) that will pay him much more than carolina.

[Dalhabs]

Better MB goes to Canes so he can reunite with kk. 😁

[Prime Minister Koivu]

8 hours ago, Fanpuck33 said:

 

Lol. That's great!

 

My first thought when the Canes allowed Waddell to look elsewhere was that they asked him to remain as President, but give up the GM job in favor of Tulsky.  But Tulsky only being named interim GM seems to quash that theory.

 

I wonder exactly what position(s) he interviewed for in Columbus.  Does being GM mean enough to him to work under JD?  Does he want both titles like he usually has had?  Or is he ready to just be a President and only replace JD, with the abilto handpick a GM?

It’s nice to see your name again!

 

For Columbus’ sake I hope they get some stability and start building. They have been spinning their wheels for a long time. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Dalhabs said:

Better MB goes to Canes so he can reunite with kk. 😁

This would genuinely be hilarious and for Bergevin to be the one to buy KK out would be amazing 

[dlbalr]

11 hours ago, Fanpuck33 said:

I wonder exactly what position(s) he interviewed for in Columbus.  Does being GM mean enough to him to work under JD?  Does he want both titles like he usually has had?  Or is he ready to just be a President and only replace JD, with the abilto handpick a GM?

 

My guess is that Columbus would give him the right to pick whatever role(s) he wants.  He's also just been a President before; that's how he started with Carolina in 2014 before taking on the GM role in 2018.  My guess is that he gets both roles to start, Davidson goes to a senior advisory role, and Nash takes over as GM in a couple of years when he's ready.

[GHT120]

2 hours ago, dlbalr said:

My guess is that Columbus would give him the right to pick whatever role(s) he wants.  He's also just been a President before; that's how he started with Carolina in 2014 before taking on the GM role in 2018.  My guess is that he gets both roles to start, Davidson goes to a senior advisory role, and Nash takes over as GM in a couple of years when he's ready.

Good bet ... but a hilarious result would be Waddell becoming President and hiring Bergevin.