alfredoh2009 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 6 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: We’ll also much for my optimism of us having potentially five 20 goal scorers this season! same here. Newhook needed Dach to reach 20 goals; not at center, I am not sure. Same for Slafkovsky, who falls to the 12-15 range. Monahan may help them keep a good competitive level, but his game is different and I do not believe it would make Newhook and Slafkovsky as productive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 4 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: I don’t have Monohan, Slafkovsky, or Roy, but had Anderson. I had Caufield, Suzuki, Dach, Anderson and either MOnahan or Slafkovsky depending on which situations they are played in (PP, o-zone starts, top-6, etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyrealist Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 1:41 PM, hab29RETIRED said: Yeah. From what he showed in that first game, I thought he may be able unsurp Suzuki from the top line by the end of the year. now I’m just hoping he isn’t going to end up being one of those players who never reach their potential because of constant injuries. Has he had an injury free year yet? [removed by moderator] Suzuki is a prove player, leader and rises to any challenge. The perfect 1C for a market like Mtl. Dach showed half a season of potential and you’re yapping about his usurping Suzuki. That’s ignorant to the realities and also super dismissive of everything Suzuki has done and continues to do. Such a stupid thing to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted October 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 9:12 AM, hockeyrealist said: [removed by moderator] Suzuki is a prove player, leader and rises to any challenge. The perfect 1C for a market like Mtl. Dach showed half a season of potential and you’re yapping about his usurping Suzuki. That’s ignorant to the realities and also super dismissive of everything Suzuki has done and continues to do. Such a stupid thing to say. People have different opinions on this forum. You can disagree without being disagreeable. You don't need to make it personal. I had very high hopes for Dach. Not that I thought he would replace Suzuki on the 1st line but that he could have similar points totals and have a similar impact. That hope is gone for this year unfortunately. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 9:12 AM, hockeyrealist said: [removed by moderator] Suzuki is a prove player, leader and rises to any challenge. The perfect 1C for a market like Mtl. Dach showed half a season of potential and you’re yapping about his usurping Suzuki. That’s ignorant to the realities and also super dismissive of everything Suzuki has done and continues to do. Such a stupid thing to say. Yeah, take it easy, friend. It is legitimate to ask whether Suzuki is a bona-fide #1C on a strong club, as opposed to a #1A. I believe close statistical analysis suggests the latter is true, at least so far in his career. Don't get me wrong, I love him as a player. But Dach does (did?) indeed have the potential to be on a par with him at least, and being tougher to play against. Now, I am pessimistic he will ever fulfill that potential due to injury. But Habs29's position was reasonable. Optimistic but reasonable. Given that Habs29 is not known for his optimism, it's too bad injury will prevent Dach from proving him right (or wrong). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 9:12 AM, hockeyrealist said: [removed by moderator] Suzuki is a prove player, leader and rises to any challenge. The perfect 1C for a market like Mtl. Dach showed half a season of potential and you’re yapping about his usurping Suzuki. That’s ignorant to the realities and also super dismissive of everything Suzuki has done and continues to do. Such a stupid thing to say. That's pretty aggressive. I agree with him. Dach hasn't, but could take that top c position. He has all of the tools. The potential is there. This is a huge setback. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 @hab29RETIRED isn’t the only one who sees a potential #1 C in Dach. I thought that if Dach had great line mates this season and IF HE CAN STAY HEALTHY UGGGGG that he might put up more points than Suzuki, even this year. And after watching Dach, Newhook, Slafkovsky I think that possibility was real. Also Dach is only 22 and Suzuki is 24. At worst we have a strong 1a 1b thing. PLEASE STAY HEALTHY KIRBY 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 we are all frustrated with the Dach injury... he was trending very high no doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 9:12 AM, hockeyrealist said: [removed by moderator] Suzuki is a prove player, leader and rises to any challenge. The perfect 1C for a market like Mtl. Dach showed half a season of potential and you’re yapping about his usurping Suzuki. That’s ignorant to the realities and also super dismissive of everything Suzuki has done and continues to do. Such a stupid thing to say. Whaaa? Holy fu*kin overreaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said: we are all frustrated with the Dach injury... he was trending very high no doubt Yeah, I'm totally demoralized about it. A few more injuries and I think we'll need to start asking whether there is a Curse of Patrick Roy on this organization or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 And now we wait on news on Guhle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Commandant said: And now we wait on news on Guhle. No doubt it’s catastrophic 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 38 minutes ago, Commandant said: And now we wait on news on Guhle. I missed the game. Another injury?? You have to be kidding me. What happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Great start to the season. Just hope he can recover 100%. This really sucks!! Eric Engels @EricEngels Canadiens announce Kirby Dach’s season is done. Confirmed it’s ACL and MCL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 9:12 AM, hockeyrealist said: [removed by moderator] Suzuki is a prove player, leader and rises to any challenge. The perfect 1C for a market like Mtl. Dach showed half a season of potential and you’re yapping about his usurping Suzuki. That’s ignorant to the realities and also super dismissive of everything Suzuki has done and continues to do. Such a stupid thing to say. [removed by moderator] Did I see I didn’t like Suzuki, was dismissive of him, or that Dach should be captain? What I said is the way Dach was playing he could be better than Suzuki and he was showing that he could control the game like no one else on the habs can. He looks to have the highest ceiling, skill and has the size to be a dominant centre like Draisaitl. Whether he can be a consistent player and put those types of numbers is the question. in my annual prediction i have Suzuki with 86 or 87 points. In thought Dach would be over 70 points this year and could be our first 100 point guy since Naslund. and as a habs fan I see that as a good thing? [removed by moderator] Going on the ignore list! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyrealist Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 21 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Yeah, take it easy, friend. It is legitimate to ask whether Suzuki is a bona-fide #1C on a strong club, as opposed to a #1A. I believe close statistical analysis suggests the latter is true, at least so far in his career. Don't get me wrong, I love him as a player. But Dach does (did?) indeed have the potential to be on a par with him at least, and being tougher to play against. Now, I am pessimistic he will ever fulfill that potential due to injury. But Habs29's position was reasonable. Optimistic but reasonable. Given that Habs29 is not known for his optimism, it's too bad injury will prevent Dach from proving him right (or wrong). Yeah, one good game a half of a decent season is way too early to be talking about Dach usurping Suzuki. Hans have been lacking a great centre for years, finally have one and people are bitching about Dach (soft as ten ply) not geting chance to become the number one C when he has had a chance and blown it multiple times. Soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyrealist Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 10 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: [removed by moderator] Did I see I didn’t like Suzuki, was dismissive of him, or that Dach should be captain? What I said is the way Dach was playing he could be better than Suzuki and he was showing that he could control the game like no one else on the habs can. He looks to have the highest ceiling, skill and has the size to be a dominant centre like Draisaitl. Whether he can be a consistent player and put those types of numbers is the question. in my annual prediction i have Suzuki with 86 or 87 points. In thought Dach would be over 70 points this year and could be our first 100 point guy since Naslund. and as a habs fan I see that as a good thing? [removed by moderator] Going on the ignore list! [removed by moderator] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyrealist Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 10 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: [removed by moderator] Did I see I didn’t like Suzuki, was dismissive of him, or that Dach should be captain? What I said is the way Dach was playing he could be better than Suzuki and he was showing that he could control the game like no one else on the habs can. He looks to have the highest ceiling, skill and has the size to be a dominant centre like Draisaitl. Whether he can be a consistent player and put those types of numbers is the question. in my annual prediction i have Suzuki with 86 or 87 points. In thought Dach would be over 70 points this year and could be our first 100 point guy since Naslund. and as a habs fan I see that as a good thing? [removed by moderator] Going on the ignore list! [removed by moderator] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 hours ago, hockeyrealist said: [removed by moderator] BOOoooo, adding this bit dosent help, unless your trying to really prove something. Anyways, i didnt even see how Guhle got injured, just heard "he is headed to dressing room." Wildass guess it is shoulder or knee injury? Very minor we all hope obviously and he just pulled for precautionary reasons on advice from new medical staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I think it's time for the moderators to get involved. We are all Habs fans and should be able to maintain some degree of civility in dealing with each other. There's enough other crap going on in the world today to get upset about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, DON said: Anyways, i didnt even see how Guhle got injured, just heard "he is headed to dressing room." Wildass guess it is shoulder or knee injury? Very minor we all hope obviously and he just pulled for precautionary reasons on advice from new medical staff. Hopefully not the knee again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 50 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Hopefully not the knee again. It would be heartening to see a risk-averse strategy from our medical staff, erring on the side of not aggravating injuries etc. Hopefully it's just that, but at this point I really feel like the hockey gods are determined to punish us and destroy our rebuild by decimating our best young talent. Regarding the fit of name-calling - that's not the Habsworld I know or want to be part of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: It would be heartening to see a risk-averse strategy from our medical staff, erring on the side of not aggravating injuries etc. Hopefully it's just that, but at this point I really feel like the hockey gods are determined to punish us and destroy our rebuild by decimating our best young talent. Regarding the fit of name-calling - that's not the Habsworld I know or want to be part of. I just read in 10 thoughts where the Habs said it was an upper body injury which I guess is not a bad thing, better than another knee injury. Name calling is for kids who haven't matured yet, don't want to be part of that either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: It would be heartening to see a risk-averse strategy from our medical staff, erring on the side of not aggravating injuries etc. Hopefully it's just that, but at this point I really feel like the hockey gods are determined to punish us and destroy our rebuild by decimating our best young talent. Regarding the fit of name-calling - that's not the Habsworld I know or want to be part of. I don’t either, but I’m not going to silently when someone goes off on my opinion like the so-called “realist” did. I don’t have an issue with someone not agreeing with my opinion, but I’m not going to sit silently with that kind of abuse. I’ve been suspended for a lot less than that, and have been here a long time, but maybe it’s time to find another forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: I don’t either, but I’m not going to silently when someone goes off on my opinion like the so-called “realist” did. I don’t have an issue with someone not agreeing with my opinion, but I’m not going to sit silently with that kind of abuse. I’ve been suspended for a lot less than that, and have been here a long time, but maybe it’s time to find another forum. Or report the post when someone goes over the line 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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