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11 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

How TF did that Laine injury only result in a sprain????

 

Outstanding news but I’ll be scared all season long. 

 

It's also very good for Laine from a mental health point of view, would have been depressing for him (for anybody) to miss a whole year. 

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Having watched both hits, you would have thought Laine was surgery and Reinbacher the sprain. Just goes to show you just can’t tell

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Last year, Guhle left one game after a big/akward hit and i assumed he was injured and would be out for awhile; but he dressed the next game.

Anyways, is great news to avoid surgery and not another lost season for him.

Just gotta hope Reinbacher heals well and we see him playing in March or April (and maybe May playoffs in Laval?).

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I was somewhat thinking it might not be as bad as it looked.  Last year, Anderson had an odd incident happen to his knee where he fell and then was carried off the ice, yet he returned the next game.  I've seen other players fall etc where it looked like a serious knee injury yet they were basically fine.  

 

Laine injury isn't nothing but we are incredibly lucky its only a sprain and doesn't need surgery.

 

 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

I expect Guhle to be there on opening night 

Agreed ... but no-way-in-he🏒🏒 should he play Saturday.

 

With Stutzle and Tkachuk missing the rest of the game after Xhekaj's hit on Tim and Brady's revenge, I expect Travis Green to have a few goons/cheap-shot-artists dressed ... projected Top 6 forwards, Top 4 D and regular goalies should stay in Tremblant; I'd give Connor Hughes another game.

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I'm fully prepared for the team to announce, in 2-3 months, that Laine will need more time off or even require a surgery.

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1 hour ago, JoeLassister said:

I'm fully prepared for the team to announce, in 2-3 months, that Laine will need more time off or even require a surgery.


Funny you mention this cause this is exactly what was on my mind today. 

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2 hours ago, JoeLassister said:

I'm fully prepared for the team to announce, in 2-3 months, that Laine will need more time off or even require a surgery.

 

Considering the various specialists were not all of the same opinion regarding not needing surgery, this is a legitimate possibility.

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Everything is conjecture at this point but I read that Laine was wearing a knee brace at the time of the knee on knee which may have helped the outcome.

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The Canadiens’ Patrik Laine says he “dodged a bullet” with the knee injury he suffered during the first period of last Saturday’s 2-1 pre-season loss to the Toronto Maple Leafs at the Bell Centre ... (Laine) said it was his decision — after seeing a "couple of doctors” and getting “some good opinions” — not to have surgery on the knee. “But the team and everybody else gave me all the help with that and, at the end of the day, just decided not to do surgery and just do rehab and let it heal,” Laine told reporters in Mont-Tremblant. “It’s my knee after all. It was just one of those it could go either way ... I don’t think there’s ever any guarantees whether you do surgery or not,” Laine added. “I’m sure me and the medical staff and everybody else will do everything we can to make sure it will be great once I come back. They did a good job kind of explaining the whole process and situation we’re in and reassuring that the chances are very high and all that stuff. So that made me feel a little bit better about it. Now just got to put in the work, but we got a great medical staff so I’m not worried about it.

- Montreal Gazette

 

N.B. - Bolded text are quotes from Laine

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2 hours ago, GHT120 said:

The Canadiens’ Patrik Laine says he “dodged a bullet” with the knee injury he suffered during the first period of last Saturday’s 2-1 pre-season loss to the Toronto Maple Leafs at the Bell Centre ... (Laine) said it was his decision — after seeing a "couple of doctors” and getting “some good opinions” — not to have surgery on the knee. “But the team and everybody else gave me all the help with that and, at the end of the day, just decided not to do surgery and just do rehab and let it heal,” Laine told reporters in Mont-Tremblant. “It’s my knee after all. It was just one of those it could go either way ... I don’t think there’s ever any guarantees whether you do surgery or not,” Laine added. “I’m sure me and the medical staff and everybody else will do everything we can to make sure it will be great once I come back. They did a good job kind of explaining the whole process and situation we’re in and reassuring that the chances are very high and all that stuff. So that made me feel a little bit better about it. Now just got to put in the work, but we got a great medical staff so I’m not worried about it.

- Montreal Gazette

 

N.B. - Bolded text are quotes from Laine


Scary stuff. Laine might discover that it’s not healing correctly in two months then need an eight month surgery. 
 

I hope we get a break on this one and Laine plays in December 

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13 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

I hope we get a break on this one and Laine plays in December 

I wouldnt expect a whole lot from him, when he does return after numerous injuries within the last year and no play.

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On 10/2/2024 at 6:50 PM, dlbalr said:

Considering the various specialists were not all of the same opinion regarding not needing surgery, this is a legitimate possibility.

 

 

Well, the funny thing about Orthopedic Surgeons is that they tend to want to perform operations.  That's what they do.  They also make way more money doing that than having someone rehab an injury.  It's fairly rare for any Dr to recommend something where profit isn't made for the medical establishment.  

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11 minutes ago, Sir_Boagalott said:

 

 

Well, the funny thing about Orthopedic Surgeons is that they tend to want to perform operations.  That's what they do.  They also make way more money doing that than having someone rehab an injury.  It's fairly rare for any Dr to recommend something where profit isn't made for the medical establishment.  

 

 

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The Habs are using the literal best orthopaedic surgeons in the world.  They are as busy as they want to be.  If they don't operate on Laine's knee, there is literally another patient with a torn ACL just waiting for them.  They don't need to invent surgeries, especially a high profile one on a pro athlete where if things go wrong their reputation will be in the mud, to get work. 

 

They have someone else with top notch insurance who will pay them well just waiting for them, cause they are the best in their field.  There is more work than they could even do, and not enough hours in the day to do it. 

 

You sound insane with that take. 

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4 minutes ago, Commandant said:

The Habs are using the literal best orthopaedic surgeons in the world.  They are as busy as they want to be.  If they don't operate on Laine's knee, there is literally another patient with a torn ACL just waiting for them.  They don't need to invent surgeries, especially a high profile one on a pro athlete where if things go wrong their reputation will be in the mud, to get work. 

 

They have someone else with top notch insurance who will pay them well just waiting for them, cause they are the best in their field.  There is more work than they could even do, and not enough hours in the day to do it. 

 

You sound insane with that take. 

 

I agree that profit is not the motive ... but, by nature, surgeons do tend to see surgery as the solution.

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3 minutes ago, GHT120 said:

 

I agree that profit is not the motive ... but, by nature, surgeons do tend to see surgery as the solution.

 

Thats a fair take.... to the hammer, everything looks like a nail.   

 

The profit explanation though just doesn't understand who the doctors the Habs consult with are.  They aren't people looking for knees to work on cause that gets them paid.  The injured people with money or great insurance, go to them. 

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I also have fears about Price's knee injury.  The MCL sprain that was supposed to be healed in two months without surgery, and then cost him the whole season, and then deteriorated and cost him his whole career.  I bet he and the team wishes they operated on day 1 in that case. 

 

Hopefully this is different, but I'm scared that in three months we will get news it hasn't gone well and he's getting surgery and done for the year. 

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42 minutes ago, Commandant said:

Hopefully this is different, but I'm scared that in three months we will get news it hasn't gone well and he's getting surgery and done for the year. 

I think that's everyone's greatest fear as we have become accustomed to the worst news possible regarding injuries. 

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2 hours ago, Commandant said:

I also have fears about Price's knee injury.  The MCL sprain that was supposed to be healed in two months without surgery, and then cost him the whole season, and then deteriorated and cost him his whole career.  I bet he and the team wishes they operated on day 1 in that case. 

 

Hopefully this is different, but I'm scared that in three months we will get news it hasn't gone well and he's getting surgery and done for the year. 

If I recall correctly, he also shouldn't have gone to the Olympics - was injured before and then shut down again after the Olympics. So I'm sure that was also a contributing factor long term - just like playing through during the final run, probably knowing that was probably his last shot.

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