dlbalr Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: Well, NJ wants to get better fast and is dangling the 2nd pick to do that. They also have $25m cap space. I don’t follow the Devils much, so I’m not sure who they have to re-sign that will eat a lot of cap space. I will say, Anderson, Petry and the 26th should be close to getting a deal done. A top-6 forward that is in demand and a top-4 defenseman. Only down side with Petry is Hamilton also is RD. It’ll eat half of their cap space, which is where my lack of knowledge on their roster comes in. On top of Hamilton, New Jersey also has Damon Severson on the right side who would probably be ahead of Petry on their depth chart. I don't think they'd have much interest in him, to be honest. A combo of Anderson, Petry, and the 26th wouldn't move the needle for them as a result. They're looking for a top-line forward and Anderson isn't that. It's Suzuki or Caufield or it's not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 hours ago, dlbalr said: On top of Hamilton, New Jersey also has Damon Severson on the right side who would probably be ahead of Petry on their depth chart. I don't think they'd have much interest in him, to be honest. A combo of Anderson, Petry, and the 26th wouldn't move the needle for them as a result. They're looking for a top-line forward and Anderson isn't that. It's Suzuki or Caufield or it's not happening. I tend to agree. I actually think that substituting Mailloux for Petry in that deal makes it a lot more enticing for New Jersey. Suzuki or Caulfield aren't going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 I think that Montreal's most likely dance partner for moving up in the draft is Philly. They didn't sign Tortorella to do a rebuild. Anderson is the type of player Philly would covet, throw in a couple extra picks or take back a short term bad contract and there is the basis for a deal. It also depends on whether there is someone at 5 the Habs really want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Would Caufield + Andersson be worth it for us to draft Slafkovsky? Im sure that is at least the pricetag. NJ gets a small 30 goal scorer and a powerforward ok for 2nd line. We get a potential future superstar winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Dalhabs said: Would Caufield + Andersson be worth it for us to draft Slafkovsky? Im sure that is at least the pricetag. NJ gets a small 30 goal scorer and a powerforward ok for 2nd line. We get a potential future superstar winger. I personally would need the 2nd and Another nice piece to trade Caufield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Dalhabs said: We get a potential future superstar winger. And Caufield isn’t? I know acquiring the 2nd OA won’t be cheap, but I don’t see the Habs trading Caufield to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Meller93 said: I personally would need the 2nd and Another nice piece to trade Caufield I am guessing Caufield-Suzuki are untouchable and non-starter for trading. Not sure i would even trade Caufield for Slafkovsky or Cooley straight up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, DON said: I am guessing Caufield-Suzuki are untouchable and non-starter for trading. Not sure i would even trade Caufield for Slafkovsky or Cooley straight up. I 100% wouldn’t. We already know Caufield is a 20 (and easily potential for 30) goal scorer at the NHL level. Cooley and Slaf are still unproven at this level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Dalhabs said: Would Caufield + Andersson be worth it for us to draft Slafkovsky? Im sure that is at least the pricetag. NJ gets a small 30 goal scorer and a powerforward ok for 2nd line. We get a potential future superstar winger. No. No. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 8 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: It also depends on whether there is someone at 5 the Habs really want. I would think trading up to, maybe 15, is more realistic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 7 hours ago, Dalhabs said: Would Caufield + Andersson be worth it for us to draft Slafkovsky? Nope, not a chance. Too much to give up. Caulfield has already proven he can score at the NHL level. Plus Anderson? New Jersey would jump at that in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, DON said: I would think trading up to, maybe 15, is more realistic? Yea, unless BIG pieces are involved I can’t see moving past the top 15. I see moving up 5-6 places to draft a guy HuGo felt slipped and they really love. could be one of the big d men, (mateychuk, mintyukov or Korchinski) or a talent like Yurov who slips due to the Russian factor. Geekie or Lambert other guys who could slip, and if HuGo likes them, they could see for to move up. that’s my thoughts anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Meller93 said: Yea, unless BIG pieces are involved I can’t see moving past the top 15. I see moving up 5-6 places to draft a guy HuGo felt slipped and they really love. could be one of the big d men, (mateychuk, mintyukov or Korchinski) or a talent like Yurov who slips due to the Russian factor. Geekie or Lambert other guys who could slip, and if HuGo likes them, they could see for to move up. that’s my thoughts anyway it would be funny if the trade up to draft Hughes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, DON said: I would think trading up to, maybe 15, is more realistic? Trading up to 15 is more realistic but I definitely think Philly's #5 pick is in play as they want to improve short term with Tortorella coming on board and trading that pick is the easiest way to accomplish that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Trading up to 15 is more realistic but I definitely think Philly's #5 pick is in play as they want to improve short term with Tortorella coming on board and trading that pick is the easiest way to accomplish that. Nemec please 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Meller93 said: Nemec please 👍🏻 They say Gorton/Hughes have not ruled out trading up or seem open to that. Again, I simply hope can get 2 impact players (draft/trade) out of the four 1st round picks in 22 & 23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, DON said: They say Gorton/Hughes have not ruled out trading up or seem open to that. Again, I simply hope can get 2 impact players (draft/trade) out of the four 1st round picks in 22 & 23. I’m hoping for the same. We need two nice players this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Meller93 said: I’m hoping for the same. We need two nice players this year Wright this year and 1 next year works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 3 hours ago, DON said: Wright this year and 1 next year works for me. A bird in hand is always worth more than two in the bush. If we can get a second impact player this year, in some way, it's better than counting on an early draft pick next year, when we don't know what will happen during the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, tomh009 said: A bird in hand is always worth more than two in the bush. If we can get a second impact player this year, in some way, it's better than counting on an early draft pick next year, when we don't know what will happen during the season. Also a full year of development from getting a player this year vs next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 19 hours ago, Commandant said: On 6/21/2022 at 2:50 AM, Dalhabs said: Would Caufield + Andersson be worth it for us to draft Slafkovsky? Im sure that is at least the pricetag. NJ gets a small 30 goal scorer and a powerforward ok for 2nd line. We get a potential future superstar winger. No. No. No. How about if the Habs give up Caufield + Anderson + Suzuki to draft 1st and 2nd to gurantee that they get Slafkovsky? What? If you're gunna go bat shit crazy go all out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Sir_Boagalott said: How about if the Habs give up Caufield + Anderson + Suzuki to draft 1st and 2nd to gurantee that they get Slafkovsky? What? If you're gunna go bat shit crazy go all out. I dont want us to trade caufield but that is what NJ for sure wants for 2nd pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 We would be very fortunate if the 2nd overall pick turns into a player equivalent to what we saw from Caufield in the second half of last season. Such a trade would be a ridiculous pursuit after the bird in the bush when you already have a stellar young player in your hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: We would be very fortunate if the 2nd overall pick turns into a player equivalent to what we saw from Caufield in the second half of last season. Such a trade would be a ridiculous pursuit after the bird in the bush when you already have a stellar young player in your hand. Yeah. That would be pulling a Milbury - a move that could be as disastrous as when Milbury traded Luongo because he wanted to draft Depietro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) No Andrei Kostitsyn curse repeat! No Andrei Kostitsyn curse repeat! No Andrei Kostitsyn curse repeat! Edited June 22, 2022 by alfredoh2009 fixed error on name, and changed to repeat instead of curse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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