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[dlbalr]

This has now been announced by the league, $88M is the cap line.

[TurdBurglar]

Arpon Basu saying Anaheim wants one of Guhle or Reinbacher in a Zegras trade.

 

https://thehockeywriters.com/ducks-ask-zegras-trade-canadiens-guhle-reinbacher/

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

2 hours ago, TurdBurglar said:

Arpon Basu saying Anaheim wants one of Guhle or Reinbacher in a Zegras trade.

 

https://thehockeywriters.com/ducks-ask-zegras-trade-canadiens-guhle-reinbacher/

 

Not surprising they would ask for one of those two. Way too early to trade Reinbacher as we have no idea what his ceiling is.  I just don't know about Zegras, like Necas he certainly has talent but what about his attitude. I just don't know. 

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

14 hours ago, TurdBurglar said:

Arpon Basu saying Anaheim wants one of Guhle or Reinbacher in a Zegras trade.

 

https://thehockeywriters.com/ducks-ask-zegras-trade-canadiens-guhle-reinbacher/

 

I know I am in a minority, but those seem to be reasonable asks for a 23-year-old C (?) with two 60+ seasons under his belt. 

 

Yup, he comes with question marks. But that’s why he’s available in the first place.

 

Not saying I’d make the trade. I honestly don’t know. As I’ve maintained for a while, you’re not going to add a young, impact FW without giving up something that hurts.

[Commandant]

30 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

 

I know I am in a minority, but those seem to be reasonable asks for a 23-year-old C (?) with two 60+ seasons under his belt. 

 

Yup, he comes with question marks. But that’s why he’s available in the first place.

 

Not saying I’d make the trade. I honestly don’t know. As I’ve maintained for a while, you’re not going to add a young, impact FW without giving up something that hurts.

 

Domi scored 70+ points as a centre for us.  Doesn't change the fact we later had him on the fourth line, and he's been bouncing around the league since that time.  Points aren't everything and like Domi, Zegras is completely clueless at playing without the puck and a liability to his team as a result. 

 

 

[Dalhabs]

It reminds me of the Drouin trade.

If its Guhle straight up for Zegras I am a bit tempted because Im nervous Guhle will take a hit to many and become damaged goods. On the other hand Guhle scored 5 points in the world championship while Zegras had only 2.

I think Ill pass as well.

[DON]

4 hours ago, Dalhabs said:

It reminds me of the Drouin trade.

If its Guhle straight up for Zegras I am a bit tempted because Im nervous Guhle will take a hit to many and become damaged goods. On the other hand Guhle scored 5 points in the world championship while Zegras had only 2.

I think Ill pass as well.

Agree on Guhle worry and is tradable in my books, for that 1 reason.

[TurdBurglar]

5 hours ago, Dalhabs said:

It reminds me of the Drouin trade.

If its Guhle straight up for Zegras I am a bit tempted because Im nervous Guhle will take a hit to many and become damaged goods. On the other hand Guhle scored 5 points in the world championship while Zegras had only 2.

I think Ill pass as well.

You also need to ask yourself why Anaheim would acquire Gauthier and make Zegras expendable if he's "worth" Guhle/Reinbacher in a trade package.  Zergas is a proven commodity and Gauthier is an unproven commodity.  One would think they would want to wait until they know what they have with Gauthier at the NHL level before making Zegras expendable as Zegras still has 2 more years left on his deal and still will be an RFA.

 

Something tells me it's a case of Anaheim knows something they don't like and are trying to sell high now before it comes out and his value dips.  I very well doubt it's just his defensive game is questionable at best. 

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

45 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said:

You also need to ask yourself why Anaheim would acquire Gauthier and make Zegras expendable if he's "worth" Guhle/Reinbacher in a trade package.  Zergas is a proven commodity and Gauthier is an unproven commodity.  One would think they would want to wait until they know what they have with Gauthier at the NHL level before making Zegras expendable as Zegras still has 2 more years left on his deal and still will be an RFA.

 

Something tells me it's a case of Anaheim knows something they don't like and are trying to sell high now before it comes out and his value dips.  I very well doubt it's just his defensive game is questionable at best. 

 

Fair points and you could be right about potential other issues with Zegras but I think it was simply a case of Gauthier being one of the most elite prospects out there and they couldn't pass up the opportunity to grab him. They will fit in the pieces later and are likely to keep Zegras unless the right deal comes along. 

[IN THE HEARTS OF MEN]

https://x.com/habsfanaticss/status/1800631122495160375?t=3ETVirYovmeMQnUJ1ilhZw&s=19

[IN THE HEARTS OF MEN]

1 hour ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:

https://x.com/habsfanaticss/status/1800631122495160375?t=3ETVirYovmeMQnUJ1ilhZw&s=19

 

Anahiem could complain of tampering if this is true?

 

Would love to see a pic as confirmation 

[Helmethead]

Wondering if this was in CT or NY..

[IN THE HEARTS OF MEN]

49 minutes ago, Helmethead said:

Wondering if this was in CT or NY..

reported NY

[TurdBurglar]

16 hours ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:

 

Anahiem could complain of tampering if this is true?

 

Would love to see a pic as confirmation 

Not sure how it would be tampering as the decision if Zegras gets traded to Montreal is completely the decision of Anaheim and Zegras has no say in the matter.  If Zegras were a pending UFA, held a full NMC or some other situation where he had influence to a move to Montreal I could see it being tampering. 

 

Players from opposing teams train together in the offseason often.  While MSL is a coach, he obviously works out similar to when he played, so I don't really see this as much of a different situation because of the above. 

 

I could be wrong about this, and I'm sure someone else has a bit more clarity. 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

Entirely possible that the Ducks gave the Habs permission to talk to him. 
 

If this even happened 

[GHT120]

16 hours ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:

Anahiem could complain of tampering if this is true?

 

Would love to see a pic as confirmation 

I expect it depends entirely on the circumstances of the encounter (i.e., was it pre-planned or random) and the nature of their discussion ... the only real "tampering" I could see would be if Zegras then demanded a trade based on what he and MSL discussed.

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

19 hours ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:

 

Anahiem could complain of tampering if this is true?

 

 

I don't see how this could possibly be tampering. Zegras is under contract to Anaheim for 2 more years. As pointed out earlier players from different teams train together all the time in the off season so they are allowed to have friends on other teams and I am sure many players have friends who are also managers/coaches on other teams. There is nothing sinister here. Now if Zegras was approaching the end of his contract than the optics could be much different but he has 2 full years left so I don't see any issue at all. 

[Commandant]

If there was a discussion of his role on the Habs or something like that, it could be tampering but proving this happened and it wasnt just two people working out together is near impossible.

[Prime Minister Koivu]

Pierre LeBrun on Insider Trading reports Patrik Laine would like to move on from #CBJ  and both team/agent will work together to try and get a trade done, he wants a fresh start.
 

Anderson back to Columbus for Laine would be sweet but I wouldn’t pay a lot for him. 

[DON]

17 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Pierre LeBrun on Insider Trading reports Patrik Laine would like to move on from #CBJ  and both team/agent will work together to try and get a trade done, he wants a fresh start.
 

Anderson back to Columbus for Laine would be sweet but I wouldn’t pay a lot for him. 

BOOOoooooo!

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

36 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Pierre LeBrun on Insider Trading reports Patrik Laine would like to move on from #CBJ  and both team/agent will work together to try and get a trade done, he wants a fresh start.
 

Anderson back to Columbus for Laine would be sweet but I wouldn’t pay a lot for him. 

 

Laine is fragile mentally and physically and he has a big cap hit. I wish him the best but I just don't see Montreal being a good fit.  Maybe he can turn it around but I am not giving up much to find out.  There would certainly have to be some salary retention to even consider it. 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

51 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

Laine is fragile mentally and physically and he has a big cap hit. I wish him the best but I just don't see Montreal being a good fit.  Maybe he can turn it around but I am not giving up much to find out.  There would certainly have to be some salary retention to even consider it. 

He certainly leaves the impression that he is a problem player. 
 

I don’t think there is a good fit

[Prime Minister Koivu]

[Commandant]

1 hour ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

Laine is fragile mentally and physically and he has a big cap hit. I wish him the best but I just don't see Montreal being a good fit.  Maybe he can turn it around but I am not giving up much to find out.  There would certainly have to be some salary retention to even consider it. 

 

Laine has two years left, and Anderson three years left on their respective contracts. 

I'd absolutely do this deal.  To me, you take a chance on Laine and if it doesn't work, you have one year less of contract to work with vs Anderson.   I think the risk here is low cause the extra year on Anderson's deal is worse. 

 

If it works, you've got gold. 

If it doesn't work, you have the money to spend in 2026 instead of 2027.  Yes, I know his contract is about 3.5 million more than Anderson AAV.

 

 

 

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

18 minutes ago, Commandant said:

 

Laine has two years left, and Anderson three years left on their respective contracts. 

I'd absolutely do this deal.  To me, you take a chance on Laine and if it doesn't work, you have one year less of contract to work with vs Anderson.   I think the risk here is low cause the extra year on Anderson's deal is worse. 

 

If it works, you've got gold. 

If it doesn't work, you have the money to spend in 2026 instead of 2027.  Yes, I know his contract is about 3.5 million more than Anderson AAV.

 

 

 

 

I see your point with the number of years left on the contract, I just think there is a better chance of Anderson being a 20 goal scorer again than Laine being healthy for 80 games and scoring 35 goals. Not sure if being under the microscope in Montreal is the right environment for a guy that has struggled with some issues.  There is no doubt he has talent.