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16 minutes ago, DON said:

Does it look like will be any worthwhile waivers folks that Habs may get a crack at signing?

 

I haven't seen anyone yet, might as well give Kapanen a shot over most of them. 

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Columbus Blue Jackets have been granted a salary cap exemption to the cap floor due to the passing of Gaudreau.  They do not have to reach the cap floor for October 7, with the expectation they will reach it in reasonable time.

 

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/report-columbus-blue-jackets-granted-salary-cap-exemption-to-start-season-1.2181966

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Its interference, the hit is massively late. 

 

Xhekaj has to be more disciplined. 

 

As for the stick causing the injury, why does that matter.  When someone gets hit from behind into the boards and their visor smashes into their nose, we still blame the hit and not the visor for the injury. This is no different. 

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5 minutes because Stutzle hit himself in the face with his own stick causing injury on an interference penalty.

Xhekaj was just showing Greig whatever runs he wants to do to our players, he can do the same to theirs.

Xhekaj may not be having the best preseason, but you need a player like this on your team. No extra discipline should be looked at by the league after seeing this angle.

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4 minutes ago, Butterface said:

5 minutes because Stutzle was injured by his own stick on an interference penalty.

Xhekaj was just showing Greig was he can do to our top player, I can do to yours.

An angle from behind shows absolutely nothing about the point of contact.

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While I think Xhekaj should be taming to down from the preseason, this hit on Stutzle is getting out of hand.  Biron on TSN is saying the league should look at it because of the chicken wing after?  It was a clean, on the edge hit.  If Stutzle's stick didn't hit is own face, nobody would of even blinked an eye. 

 

While the whole game misconduct and major being upheld after a review was ridiculous, it was a preseason game.

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1 minute ago, TurdBurglar said:

While I think Xhekaj should be taming to down from the preseason, this hit on Stutzle is getting out of hand.  Biron on TSN is saying the league should look at it because of the chicken wing after?  It was a clean, on the edge hit.  If Stutzle's stick didn't hit is own face, nobody would of even blinked an eye. 

 

While the whole game misconduct and major being upheld after a review was ridiculous, it was a preseason game.

 

It was not clean.  You can't hit a player who doesn't have the puck. 

 

And again, it doesn't matter if it was his own stick that injured him, or falling on the ice, or his visor smashing into his face, or Xhekaj's shoulder.  All of those wouldn't happen without the illegal check.  Once you through an illegal hit, you are responsible. 

 

I argued the same when people tried to say the Stantion and not Chara caused Pacioretty's injury... yeah, but Chara hit him into the stantion.  

 

Yeah it was Stutzle's stick, but Xhekaj's hit is what made him hit himself with the stick, he wasn't slashing his own face without the illegal check. 

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People are conflating the penalty and headshot but they are two different issues. 
 

There was no headshot but there was a penalty for interference causing injury - If Xhekaj was a little bit closer then Stuzle would be in the hospital but fortunately he missed the head. 

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The hit was not clean. It was dirty. It wasn't a headshot, but it was interference resulting in injury. It was a response to, and an identical play, minus the chicken wing which didn't make contact, to the greig hit. He did not hit his head. This was a better response than the Laine hit, but not quite where he needs to operate.  He needs to hit players with the puck, clean and send the message that way. Hit them as hard as he can. Dont hold back.  But clean. Still though. I'm not that upset at the hit. If the identical play on greig is a major, this hit probably doesn't happen. 

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21 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

People are conflating the penalty and headshot but they are two different issues. 
 

There was no headshot but there was a penalty for interference causing injury - 

 

I agree, it was late, it was a penalty all day long but it was not a headshot. If it was a headshot then we would definitely be looking at a suspension of a few games. 

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1 hour ago, GHT120 said:

An angle from behind shows absolutely nothing about the point of contact.


True, but if you saw the one angle in the game last night and by adding this angle:

 

No head contact.

It is a 2 minute penalty for interference, but a major because the player was injured (by himself).

It therefore is no different than the Greig penalty, but Xhekaj gets a major.

 

I don’t like that Xhekaj has to be Sheriff. I don’t like that the preseason games have been fraught full of injuries via contact or otherwise. But I’m glad players will think twice about running our players if they will receive the same treatment in return. I just hope Xhekaj can settle down and play hockey now that he’s shown he will go the distance for his teammates again this year. FAAFO.

 

 

 

 

 


 

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6 minutes ago, Butterface said:


True, but if you saw the one angle in the game last night and by adding this angle:

 

No head contact.

It is a 2 minute penalty for interference, but a major because the player was injured (by himself).

It therefore is no different than the Greig penalty, but Xhekaj gets a major.

 

I don’t like that Xhekaj has to be Sheriff. I don’t like that the preseason games have been fraught full of injuries via contact or otherwise. But I’m glad players will think twice about running our players if they will receive the same treatment in return. I just hope Xhekaj can settle down and play hockey now that he’s shown he will go the distance for his teammates again this year. FAAFO.

I-M-O the major was because it was a dangerous, late hit ... not because of the injury.

 

Nor do I think that most players will think twice ... the vast majority of those that habitually do such things will accept the beating as the cost of drawing an NHL pay cheque.

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1 minute ago, GHT120 said:

I-M-O the major was because it was a dangerous, late hit ... not because of the injury.

 

Nor do I think that most players will think twice ... the vast majority of those that habitually do such things will accept the beating as the cost of drawing an NHL pay cheque.

 

If Stutzle hadn't been hurt at all then I would have been very surprised if it was a major. 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, GHT120 said:

I-M-O the major was because it was a dangerous, late hit ... not because of the injury.

 

Nor do I think that most players will think twice ... the vast majority of those that habitually do such things will accept the beating as the cost of drawing an NHL pay cheque.


I thought an interference penalty (for a late hit)… even a legal hit, that happens to be late and is thereby interference, will get a 5 minute if the player is injured (even if he injures himself). 

Greig should have been awarded the same penalty.

 

 

 

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On 10/1/2024 at 6:35 PM, Prime Minister Koivu said:


100 million in 27/28 ?

 

If revenues stay on their current trajectory, it might be above that actually.  There's a CBA-legislated 5% increase maximum but the CBA ends in September 2026.  If revenues grow quicker than that 5% restriction, 2026-27 could see a bigger than usual jump (I could see it hitting $100M then) with 2027-28 getting a top-up beyond that.

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https://www.tsn.ca/video/domino-s-that-s-hockey-does-xhekaj-hit-on-stutzle-prove-nhl-has-a-major-problem~3004146
 

Weird… both Xhekaj incidents were in DIRECT RESPONSE to the opposing team that either poorly executed or tried to injure a player on the Canadiens. Yet neither of these prior incidents were really mentioned as the root cause.

 

The real reason Xhekaj handed out his punishment is because of the other players, not because of Xhekaj. If Xhekaj were doing this without provication, I would blame Xhekaj. But he’s not. It is retaliation and the league should look at the first incidents that caused the Xhekaj reaction just as closely as Xhekaj.

 

One does not happen without the other.

 

put that in your pipe and smoke it Bryan Hayes.

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This is horseshit. 

 

He's got a mental health issue?  Sure... don't play... go on LTIR. 

 

There is no reason though that Lehner should be off the books while players like Carey Price with a chronic knee have to go on LTIR. 

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12 minutes ago, Commandant said:

 

This is horseshit. 

 

He's got a mental health issue?  Sure... don't play... go on LTIR. 

 

There is no reason though that Lehner should be off the books while players like Carey Price with a chronic knee have to go on LTIR. 

 

Provable career ending LTIR should come off the cap period. But yeah, precedent sent. Price and the Habs should agree to him no-showing next year, go off grid, instant no LTIR, and he gets paid. 

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19 minutes ago, Commandant said:

 

This is horseshit. 

 

He's got a mental health issue?  Sure... don't play... go on LTIR. 

 

There is no reason though that Lehner should be off the books while players like Carey Price with a chronic knee have to go on LTIR. 

 

I would agree if Lehner is still getting paid. You can't have it both ways (ie player getting paid and not be on the books). Having said that I am far from an expert on these issues. 

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